What's the most common way to play a 145 progression on a C harp in 2nd position? So that is in the key of G and with the chords G, C,D, right? Which holes to draw, which to blow? Any good video on this?
many Thanks, Johan
Last Edited by johan d on Nov 24, 2016 6:10 AM
Chords? Standard tuned diatonic harmonica has two major chords, and one minor chord. On a C, the blow is C and the draw is G. There is a Dm on holes 4, 5, 6 draw. There is no D major chord, so tough to play a I IV V unless you are good at bending or fast at arpeggiating. I recently discovered that it is possible to play holes 2 and 3 draw in such a way that you can produce a dyad that produces the D chord sound, by shaping your mouth to a D note, but that's really stretching it, I doubt if that is the answer to your question.
Last Edited by Gnarly on Nov 24, 2016 7:39 AM
Melody? For the blues, it's commonplace to play second position pentatonic phrases over all three chords, altering the notes that clash too much. Major penta works for the I, lower the draw 3 note for the IV and V chords. I can only take so much of the unvarnished F over the D7 (V) chord. Some say that is the essence of the blues--I say it's the wrong note. If you hold that note long enough, perhaps you will discover what I mean.
Last Edited by Gnarly on Nov 24, 2016 8:16 AM
For chords would that be: G - I: draw on holes (1) 2 3 4 (5) C - IV: blow on holes 1 2 3 (4 5 ) D - V: draw on holes 1 4 (tong blocking) 2 & 3 or draw 4 5 6
Last Edited by johan d on Nov 24, 2016 9:54 AM
For the I major triad, the root is at draw 2 and at blow 3, 6 and 9. The third is at draw 3 and 7 and at blow 10 half-step bend. The fifth is at draw 1, 4 and 8. Notes which are often added are: the sixth, (blow 2, 5 and 8), the flat seventh (draw 2 whole-step bend, draw 5 and draw 9), and the ninth (draw 3 whole-step bend, draw 6 and draw 10). Use your ears to tell which of these sound good on a particular song.
For the IV major triad, the root is at blow 1, 4, 7 and 10. The third is at blow 2, 5 and 8. The fifth is at blow 3, 6 and 9. Notes which are often added are: the sixth, (draw 3 whole-step bend, draw 6 and draw 10), the flat seventh (draw 3 half-step bend, overblow 6 and blow 10 whole-step bend), and the ninth (draw 1, draw 4 and draw 8). Use your ears to tell which of these sound good on a particular song.
For the V major triad, the root is at draw 1, 4 and 8. The third is at draw 2 half-step bend, 5 overblow and blow 9 half-step bend. The fifth is at draw 1, 4 and 8. Notes which are often added are: the sixth, (draw 3 and 7 and blow 10 half-step bend) the flat seventh (blow 1, 4, 7 and 10) and the ninth (blow 2, 5 and 8). Use your ears to tell which of these sound good on a particular song.
If u can hear the 145--12 bar cadence in yr head, while playing --u can do a lot of things --I like to do "bassline w/ backbeats" over each chord an bounce off that---because I can hear the chord changes, in my head I automatically play appropriate notes
I may do an octave split when it goes to the 4 [on blow 1 and blow 4, w tongue between on blow 2 3] then play riffs over 4 chord ---
hit the split on the 1 beat of each measure ,use the next 3 beats for fill, because I hear the change in my head, the rest is automatic
I THINKS ITS SUPER IMPORTANT TO KNOW THESE CHANGES IN YR HEAD W/OUT HESITATION so when the chord changes yr playing good exit and enter notes by reflex--u probably already do that, w/out knowing it---
So if I ask the people Im playing with; what key? quick change? 12 bar? does it have a 6251 turn --- I don't stop n think "oh I have to play this hole or that hole, I hear the changes in my head and automatically play to the changes
that my "Pseudo intellectual version"
BUT HEARING THE CHANGES IS KEY--U should be able to hum the whole deal w/ and w/ out quick change, the turn chords as well.
listen to standard blues song and hear the 1 and 4 changes-know when they happen ---be ready for the 5 to 4 to 1 turn -- Then apply all the information on chords etc-- everyone wrote about and it will come automatically---[most of the time]
I play rack a lot w /guitar and that helps--Im so use to playing 145 on guitar --that I hear it in my head w/ or w/out the guitar
there is really no reason not to learn it. it is super easy. think about it. it is a diatonic harmonica, what that means is there are seven notes. consider the fact that there are 7 days in a week. if today is friday, then tomorrow is saturday, yesterday was thursday. i am willing to bet you did not even for one second,even have to think about that? so how hard can it be to remember 7 notes?
it is a C harmonica so at least one note will be a C? we typically play in cross harp, so we all know 2 draw will be a G. heck you already know two out of the seven notes already!
so check it out........ the notes on a C harmonica are..... A B C D E F G pretty simple. so how do we remember where they are located. lets start with the draw plate. the draw plate is in G so we can put them in order like this G A B C D E F.. let's forget about the first two draw notes for a minute.
what we have left are the last 8 draw notes. holes 3 thru 10......................... we will use every other note starting on 3 draw.
B D F A..... THAT IS DRAW HOLES 3 4 5 6....... HOLES 7 8 9 10 are exactly the same. B D F A so we have B D F A B D F A ........ you only have to remember 4 notes..................... B D F A it is as simple as tuesday wednesday thursday friday ... you just have to remember...... B D F A
you do not need to remember all 4 notes, if you can remember that hole three draw is a B note then just use every other note, you will get B D F A B D F A... so.... we all know that 2 draw is a G
so we now have G B D F A B D F A.... ONE DRAW IS THE SAME AS 4 DRAW. D G B D F A B D F A. you could use this as a user name or password, or an alarm code.
something you do every day until you have it memorized. B D F A B D F A...... 3 5 7 2..... 3 5 7 2 ... now i know my abc's
watch gnarly's video as well.
Last Edited by 1847 on Nov 25, 2016 2:44 PM
