ejakon
49 posts
Jul 26, 2017
4:28 PM
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So one thing always got me intrigued by James Cotton the Creeper is that theres a christmas jingle in the middle but its never explained ot elaborated on. What does this mean? Is the song intended for Christmas?
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Tommy the Hat
629 posts
Jul 26, 2017
5:05 PM
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Maybe Santa Clause is the Creeper! Or...maybe he knew it would make people question it for years to come but really it was just a note that reminded him of the song while he was playing.
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ejakon
50 posts
Jul 26, 2017
5:08 PM
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I wish he was still alive so i can ask him where he got the inspiration for the song
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WinslowYerxa
1401 posts
Jul 26, 2017
5:13 PM
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Doesn't he also play Mary Had a Little Lamb?
It's a quote, something jazz musicians do, and often to get a laugh - "What the hell- where did that come from?"
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Joe_L
2740 posts
Jul 27, 2017
2:45 AM
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Perhaps, Cotton loved Christmas. He used to play gigs in Chicago on Christmas Day in at small bar with Pinetop Perkins, Willie Smith, Calvin Jones and Sammy Lawhorn. It almost always ended up being a tribute to Muddy with some other tunes mixed in. It was great! I always considered it to be a great Christmas gift.
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chopsy
60 posts
Jul 27, 2017
9:03 AM
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The horn players I play with seem to do this a lot, and always a phrase of a Christmas tune for some reason. There must be someone who started that particular "trend" of using holiday riffs.
Certainly a fun way to get the crowd's attention. Heck, it even works on me.
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barbequebob
3436 posts
Jul 27, 2017
10:00 AM
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All it is really is nothing but humor, plain and simple and you're making way too much over basically nothing. This has been done by musicians who play all different instruments forever. The thing is to use those quotes BUT make them PROPERLY fit into the groove and feel.
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Tommy the Hat
644 posts
Jul 27, 2017
10:07 AM
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I agree with BBQ,
Some hear the Jingle bells in this song and ask why. I ask..."why Not? :)
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6SN7
734 posts
Jul 27, 2017
12:23 PM
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BBQ is correct. It fun to do it and it's kind of clever. I like to quote the easy stuff like "One O'Clock Jump" or "Woody Woodpecker" but when i'm in that "shredding mode" and really want to show off, a play a little Charlie Parker's 'Ornithology."
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6SN7
735 posts
Jul 27, 2017
12:23 PM
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BBQ is correct. It fun to do it and it's kind of clever. I like to quote the easy stuff like "One O'Clock Jump" or "Woody Woodpecker" but when i'm in that "shredding mode" and really want to show off, a play a little Charlie Parker's "Yardbird Suite."
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barbequebob
3437 posts
Jul 28, 2017
8:20 AM
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On LW's instrumental classic, Flying Saucer, he quotes Charlie Parker's Salt Peanuts on it. In Cotton's earlier version of The Creeper on Verve/Forecast in the late 60's, he also quotes part of Count Basie's One O'Clock Jump in it and he also quotes Lionel Hampton's Flying Home on it as well. If you can put it while it PROPERLY fits the groove and feel, it works well, but if you don't (and musicians with horrible time will never be able to do that at all), it's a big time musical fart.
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1847
4330 posts
Jul 28, 2017
8:41 AM
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on the 4 chord in "blues with a feeling" little walter quotes.. oh when the saints, oh when the saints.
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tmf714
3083 posts
Jul 28, 2017
9:33 AM
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Dennis Gruenling will throw in the "Munsters" ,"Flintstones", and "Andy Griffith " themes in his songs.
As long as if fits the music being played,it's cool.
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nacoran
9544 posts
Jul 28, 2017
12:49 PM
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Apparently Pink Floyd has at least three songs where they slipped something approximating the theme song for Doctor Who in.
I've got a song that starts off the same way as Amazing Grace, and we had one song where I kept slipping gags in... after "siren's song" I'd play a siren sound (could never get a good American siren sound, but the European style ones are easy), after "I can feel you squeeze" I'd play a little burst that made it sound like I was getting squeezed, and until he got scared of copyright issues are guitar player would play a little bit of Nirvana's Teen Spirit right after the line "Everything dies".
It can be a lot of fun to slip stuff like that in.
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Goldbrick
1850 posts
Jul 28, 2017
3:57 PM
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Not to be extra picky but.... Salt Peanuts is more likely a Diz / Kenny Clarke tune
But its all good in the hood
Chuck Berry was big on throwing in Mary Had a little Lamb
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