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Buddha
618 posts
Jun 11, 2009
7:03 PM
Chromatic Blues,

you said you've been studying music for 20 years. You talk about the importance of 1st and 4th position being more important than 11th or 12th. So let's hear it...

Here is a track I put together for my students
http://www.harmonicapros.com/music-tools/and_the_dog_smiles.mp3

here is the chord chart for it too
http://www.harmonicapros.com/music-tools/and_the_dog_smiles.BMP

Zack can play this and I'd like to hear how well you do. And OBs are not necessary.

Anybody feel free to play along. If you want to post your version of it, I will give a free session/lesson to whomever I think sounds the best.

This is playable on just about any key harmonica.

Last Edited by on Jun 11, 2009 7:16 PM
Arbite
38 posts
Jun 12, 2009
10:24 AM
Haha this is Hard =)

What harp you recommend for this? Iam trying it on a C,
More of this type of threads, Love a challenge,


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RyanMortos
201 posts
Jun 12, 2009
10:36 AM
Cool track but I wouldn't know where to start.

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Pennsylvania - H.A.R.P. (Harmonica Association 'Round Philly)
Arbite
39 posts
Jun 12, 2009
10:40 AM
5 Draw on C Harp, or 3 Draw on G Harp, Thats where i start =) but iam NO expert
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ZackPomerleau
177 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:00 AM
Arbite, 5th on the C would be 12th position. Then it moves to E I believe at some point, so that would be 5th (which is 2 blow root) and then moves to D (so 1 draw) then back to F.

Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2009 3:13 PM
Buddha
621 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:02 AM
I use a C harp. If you start the tune blowing on hole 4 (C) use your ear from there. The "hard" change that throws everybody goes to 4th position (major) you can play 5th position (major) licks over that section too
ZackPomerleau
178 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:08 AM
I believe I posted that major scale on another thread...
ZackPomerleau
179 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:10 AM
oldwailer
767 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:46 AM
Seeing that video again was really cool. Buddha is the MASTER at that.

One point that has been helpful to me (something I learned at the Harmonica Masterclass) is a difference in terminology when referring to the difference in the heavy, edgy blues vibrato and the lighter, more melodic vibrato Buddha demonstrates in the vid: At the School of the Blues they call it "tremolo" when it's the Buddha kind--and it's called "vibrato" when it's the heavier, blues kind. Dave Barrett recommends using tremolo everywhere--and vibrato only when it adds to the effect you want.

I think Buddha might prefer to use tremolo more sparingly too--but that is just my interpretation.


The real difference is that the tremolo changes volume at a regular interval--and the vibrato changes pitch.

I also think that Buddha's vibrato might change pitch too--it's just a lot smoother than the throat-produced kind we usually hear.

Anyway--the little terminology thing helps me to approach it a little better. . .
ZackPomerleau
180 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:53 AM
I personally think Buddha does Vibrato, and Tremulent is that 'harder' one most of the time.
Preston
418 posts
Jun 12, 2009
2:15 PM
I think they are the same.

Vibrato:

a slightly tremulous effect imparted to vocal or instrumental tone for added warmth and expressiveness by slight and rapid variations in pitch

Tremolo

a: the rapid reiteration of a musical tone or of alternating tones to produce a tremulous effect
b: vocal vibrato especially when prominent or excessive


My source: Merriam Webster Dictionary
Patrick Barker
323 posts
Jun 12, 2009
2:22 PM
Thanks for challenging us to expand our boundaries! I'm going to have to work on this one...
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Christelle Berthon
31 posts
Jun 12, 2009
10:38 PM
Hi everybody

This is my try...I know it sounds crap and people will not like it, but this is it

http://www.christelleharpqueen.net/Michalek.mp3

Christelle
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Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2009 10:39 PM
ZackPomerleau
193 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:11 PM
Christelle, I personally think it was pretty fabulous. What harmonica were you using? Good job.
Buddha
624 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:16 PM
Christelle,

Thank you for doing that. I thought it was wonderful!!! It's not easy to play over those changes but you did a great job. I saw your Bach piece too, fantastico!
ZackPomerleau
194 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:29 PM
Yep, I knew Chris would like it. It took me awhile to get it!
ZackPomerleau
195 posts
Jun 12, 2009
11:31 PM
http://www.modernbluesharmonica.com/board/board_topic/5560960/451550.htm


There's mine, figured I'd post it.
Christelle Berthon
32 posts
Jun 13, 2009
12:03 AM
Chris, Zack, thanks a lot for your comments and, I'm quite surprised by this feedback... I have to redo some stuff to make it more smooth...Anyway thanks Chris It's a good way to start my day (it's 9AM here)

PS: Chris for the Bach thing it's still a work in progress so when in 10 years when I'll know how to play, I'll redo it... (in Italian when you're talking to a woman you may say "Fantastica" LOL)
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Last Edited by on Jun 13, 2009 12:05 AM
mr_so&so
130 posts
Jun 13, 2009
6:10 AM
@Christelle That was awesome.
Patrick Barker
333 posts
Jun 14, 2009
6:29 PM
Wow You guys are great I need to start learning more positions (please no sexual jokes)
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ZackPomerleau
199 posts
Jun 14, 2009
6:34 PM
Well, you said it...
GermanHarpist
385 posts
Jun 15, 2009
7:25 AM
Christelle, that was great!

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ZackPomerleau
207 posts
Jun 15, 2009
7:31 AM
Jeeze Christelle, steal the limelight!!! Just kidding!!! You rock!
Christelle Berthon
33 posts
Jun 15, 2009
8:34 AM
I didn't knew the word "limelight" once again you're teaching some english, thanks...Still it can be more smooth

I really do HATE what I'll say: I still have issues with the set up of my harmonicas, I can't learn how to do that myself (have read and watch everything about that, and I ruin all the time the harmonica I'm touching) the reeds are not reacting the way I want and now i'm sure 100 % that it's not coming from me.

Edited: I'm adding something: I can hear so very often players (not necessarily harmonica players) who put the responsibilities of not being able to do something on the back of their instrument, but REALLY this is not the case here....I love Seydel and I can't be more happy of the wonderful product of this company. Having said that I was screaming to the world my frustration of not being able to tweek my reeds properly

I can't wait to be at SPAH and try the Joe Spiers and Brad Harrisson products, and if it's confirmed that these harmonicas can allow me to OB/OD properly then I'll redo this track and playing something decent


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Last Edited by on Jun 15, 2009 9:42 AM
ZackPomerleau
210 posts
Jun 15, 2009
8:37 AM
Limelight pretty much means spotlight, or the focal point. But, Christelle, I get what you're saying. I can set up mine decently, but I understand what you are saying. At SPAH all the customizers that are worth a thought will be there, so I say give them all a holler.


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