Buddha
634 posts
Jun 15, 2009
7:38 AM
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use a C harp. The music changes modes with every variation in music.
http://www.harmonicapros.com/music-tools/the_modes.mp3
The scales
CDEFGAB - Ionian
DEFGABC - Dorian
EFGABCD - Phrygian
FGABCDE - Lydian
GABCDEF - Myxolydian
ABCDEFG - Aoelian
BCDEFGA - Locrian
All of the Scales listed above are actually C major scales that start on different degrees of the C major scale. However if you started on a different interval and play them over chords in others keys they bring out a new feeling or flavor of music.
I would like to hear everybody submit something on this one as you do not need to know how to bend or OB if you use a C harp. For the more advanced players use a different keyed harp to play the same scales in C. For a frame of reference, I can play every mode in every key on all harps, I'm not saying that as a bragging point, it's something that is necessary if you want to play music at high level - especially jazz. It took me a long time and considerable dedication to learn it on all keys fluently. Maybe its something you want to work on in your own time.
If you want to know what I am practicing now, its the modes of the Lydian Augmented Scale
for example to Play over a C7#11 then you play the Bb Lydian aug scale. To play C ALT then play the E Lydian aug scale.
The point is, a person could go on forever learning modes and scales, when, where and how to use them but you have to start some place and the basic greek modes is a good starting point.
Last Edited by on Jun 15, 2009 7:36 PM
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ZackPomerleau
208 posts
Jun 15, 2009
8:03 AM
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Interesting Chris, I may try it on my C, and then maybe an A or something. Locrian mode, too, eh? That's a fun mode, but not a huge fan of the diminished root.
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tookatooka
240 posts
Jun 15, 2009
12:08 PM
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Interesting post Chris. I'm a complete idiot when it comes to musical theory, is it right to assume that for each mode, one simply moves up the harp? For example, would I still be playing the Aoelian mode if I played -3''-3 4 -4 5 -5 6 or should it always start with a draw 6?
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Buddha
636 posts
Jun 15, 2009
12:23 PM
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-3'' is the same as -6 so play which ever one your prefer. Use them both. ideally you don't want to use root notes at all, that's the bass player's job.
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bluzlvr
210 posts
Jun 15, 2009
1:10 PM
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I know I've posted this before, but I've been doing an exercise where I practice over an A minor I-IV-V, playing the Aoelian over the I, the Dorian over the IV and the Phrygian over the V on a C harp. (Basically forth position.)
It's starting to help me learn an unfamiliar position, at least in a minor key and I'm starting to transfer minor licks into that postion.
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RyanMortos
207 posts
Jun 15, 2009
5:38 PM
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If the difference isn't that they have different root notes how do you play each mode differently if they each contain the same set of notes? Do you just switch note focus and change what's lower and what's upper? or are you just moving to different note holes on the harp? I'm not sure I understand what makes the different modes different.
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~Ryan
Pennsylvania - H.A.R.P. (Harmonica Association 'Round Philly)
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RyanMortos
209 posts
Jun 15, 2009
7:06 PM
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Disregard the above, I started to play it on my harp and noticed how with each mode I moved up one note on the harp. Is the Lydian missing a D or is it supposed to have 2 Es instead? Think I'll start practicing and post an mp3 a few months from now when I get it, haha.
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~Ryan
Pennsylvania - H.A.R.P. (Harmonica Association 'Round Philly)
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KC69
106 posts
Jun 15, 2009
8:03 PM
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Thanks Buddha: Great practice on modes/scales. This was something we discussed at class with Jimi Lee this past weekend at the Buckeye Harmonica Fest. What a great time. I was fortunate enough to go for Dinner with Jimi and PT Gazell. Wow just to enjoy the company and ask some questions. What a great time. (actually we talked more about my gardening and hobbies. what a great couple of guys!!) I'm sure your going to have a great time at SPAH:
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