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jonsparrow
513 posts
Jun 25, 2009
2:16 PM
this has probobly been answer before...but i just started to get overblows. i cant do them on comand though. still trying to figure out the exact way to place my tounge. but i can get em sometimes. so my question is do you have to force extra air to get the overblow? the way i get my over blow is by bringing my tounge almost to the roof of my mouth. then i kinda make a shape with it but i havnt fully figured that out yet. havnt been able to hold the note long enough. i get the over blow then i lose it. so ya i just wanted to know if extra air was needed to force it or not so i can eliminate that from my trial an errors.

Last Edited by on Jun 25, 2009 2:17 PM
GermanHarpist
402 posts
Jun 25, 2009
2:21 PM
In my experience: if an overblow is playable, it is also playable with little air pressure. Pressure helps to get the overblows but I think it wrecks harps...
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jonsparrow
514 posts
Jun 25, 2009
2:24 PM
ya thats what i was afraid of, cause i dont use alot of pressure when i play. havnt blown out a reed yet an i dont realy want too.
jonsparrow
516 posts
Jun 25, 2009
5:21 PM
sorry for the ear peirceing sounds but have i got it? is this an overblow? 6 hole key of A

GermanHarpist
406 posts
Jun 25, 2009
5:39 PM
yes.

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Last Edited by on Jun 25, 2009 5:41 PM
jonsparrow
518 posts
Jun 25, 2009
6:17 PM
:)
Preston
433 posts
Jun 25, 2009
7:36 PM
Damn that was painful, but congrats, you got it! Or well, the beginning of it anyway. I wish I had recorded myself when I was learning! Now I know what my wife and beagle were going thru. Keep up the good work.
jonsparrow
520 posts
Jun 25, 2009
8:04 PM
haha thanks.
arzajac
11 posts
Jun 26, 2009
10:02 AM
"This video has been removed by the user"

Would you put it back? I'm curious to know if I'm on the right track and this would be helpful.
jonsparrow
524 posts
Jun 26, 2009
12:05 PM
sure im just gonna try an host is some where else cause i dont want it on youtube.
jonsparrow
527 posts
Jun 26, 2009
1:32 PM
here you go. you have your tounge in the perfect possision. if you like a millimeter off you loose it. at least for me thats how i see it. i give mad respect to people who can overblow nicely now that i know how hard it is.

Last Edited by on Jun 26, 2009 1:41 PM
GermanHarpist
409 posts
Jun 26, 2009
2:05 PM
"like a millimeter off you loose it." That's exactly it. What I forgot to mention: The more exact the position of your tongue the less air pressure you need. I always have to remind myself, not to focus too much on air pressure but on the right tongue position.

And then to get that tongue position and air pressure just right to get that ob to sound more and more bearable... it's definitely a challenge. With my cheapo Bluesbands anyway... lol.

Customization is key.

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GermanHarpist
410 posts
Jun 26, 2009
2:17 PM
Thats about three months into discovering obs.

I did them wrong though, with a lot of pressure.

Only now I started working on doing them with less pressure. Btw. this D harp and G harp still work...

So high pressure definitely strains your harps. But not all harps die when "pressured" into obs...



I labelled the overblows, because my brother just didn't want to realise what the hell was so exciting about this vid.

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Last Edited by on Jun 26, 2009 2:19 PM
jonsparrow
529 posts
Jun 26, 2009
10:14 PM
dosnt sound like your forcing much air. ya i realized that too that you dont need much air. its a good thing to know when learning. saves time.
jonsparrow
584 posts
Jul 04, 2009
10:45 PM
just wanted to confirm for any one else learnin overblow it is alot easier on a Bb harp. i can bang em out like nothing on there. even on a special20.

Last Edited by on Jul 04, 2009 10:46 PM
GermanHarpist
454 posts
Jul 05, 2009
1:19 AM
And now work your way to the more difficult harp/holes. Maybe go up in key, and down the harp... and try it on all different harps...
And then finally the 1 hole ob on a harp lower than C, which is somewhat again a different technique (it seems to me anyway...).

IMO, the worse the harps/the holes that you learn on the easier it gets to overblows on better harps/holes. After practicing on my crappy Bluesbands for a year getting obs on a untinkered MB (which I posted pictures of) is totally effortless and I even got the overdraws (for the first time) on holes 7, 8, 9.

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