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ChrisA
44 posts
Jul 11, 2009
12:07 PM
Anybody has a good reference for tongue blocked chords. Thanks in advance.
ZackPomerleau
345 posts
Jul 11, 2009
1:49 PM
What are you looking for exactly? Like where the octaves are, etc?
mickil
354 posts
Jul 11, 2009
1:50 PM
Chris,

I'm not sure if I know what you mean - no 'wise guy' attitude intended.

When I TB, I'm usually playing 4 - or occasionally 3 - holes with a pucker and blocking out what lies between them.

What's left is not usually a chord; rather, it's an octave. Having said that, I know there's some scary stuff that can mix chords with single notes at speed, i.e. kudzu's Iron Harp Challenge #1 on YT. At least, I think that's what's going on there.

I'm not trying to be pedantic. Do you mean stuff about how to tongue block better?
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ChrisA
45 posts
Jul 11, 2009
2:30 PM
hey guys, i am familiar with the more common ones like 1-4 b, 1-4 d, 2-5 d, 3-6 b. I guess what i am looking for is a list of all available chords on the harp.
mickil
357 posts
Jul 11, 2009
2:45 PM
It was designed primarily to play simple diatonic tunes revolving around I - IV - V. So, I suppose that's about it.

Still, I've never sat down and tried to work out all the possibilities.

I've just started using 4&6< to imply a V7d chord. Still, I don't know of a reference.
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GermanHarpist
471 posts
Jul 11, 2009
6:19 PM
" Still, I've never sat down and tried to work out all the possibilities. "

To all: So what other split chords possibilities are there?

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GamblersHand
53 posts
Jul 13, 2009
2:43 AM
@ChrisA

I'm still not sure of the question, are you looking for octave/split chords?

Anyway I'll assume that you are. Firstly, the "pure" octaves, assuming a C harp

As the blow notes follow the C chord, any octave with the middle two holes blocked will work. 1b/4b, 2b/5b, 3b/6b,4b/7b etc

There's been plenty of debate in the past whether the opening line of Little Walter's "Juke" actually uses a 6b/9b octave rather than a single 6b, but let's not go there.

So anyway if you're playing cross harp (i.e. a C harp played in G), then you have the fourth (C), sixth (E) and 1st (G) notes of the scale for blow octaves.

For draw octaves, the 1d/4d you know, then you need to block three notes to get the 3d/7d, 4d/8d, 5d/9d, and 6d/10d. I'm not sure if I've ever used those last two, but the 4d/8d is useful, especially in 3rd position.

You also have the 2d/5d that you mentioned. This isn't an octave but it's sounding the 1st note against the blue note flat-7th. Very bluesy, and draws attention with the dischordance.

More dischordant still is the 3d/6d "octave" tongue split. This is the 2nd & 3rd notes in the scale, and I most often use it over the V chord (where, I guess it's the 5th and 6th notes combined) and you sometimes hear it as a jazzier finish to a song.

Also, some genius players such as Jason Ricci can actually bend the lower note in the 2d/5d and 3d/6d to get the "pure" octave. I have no idea how they do that.

I've also heard of some players just blocking single holes, but I've never tried this. Has anyone else out there?
GermanHarpist
484 posts
Jul 13, 2009
3:35 AM
Thanks GH, that was very helpful.

So to summarize:
-octaves-
blow: 1/4, 2/5, 3/6, 4/7, 5/8, 6/9, 7/10 (corrected, thanks ;)
draw: 1/4, 3/7, 4/8, 5/9, 6/10

-dischordes i.e. non-octaves-
draw: 2/5, 3/6

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Last Edited by on Jul 13, 2009 4:41 AM
GamblersHand
54 posts
Jul 13, 2009
4:36 AM
Yes, and 5b/8b, 6b/9b, 7b/10b

cheers
ChrisA
47 posts
Jul 13, 2009
7:23 AM
GermanHarpist, GamblersHand, thank you very much.
mickil
364 posts
Jul 13, 2009
9:46 AM
You're welcome!
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ChrisA
48 posts
Jul 13, 2009
11:03 AM
mickil, thanks to you too man, did i sense a little sarcasm there? Omission not intended.
GamblersHand
58 posts
Jul 17, 2009
9:46 AM
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but was just checking out Adam's clip on Nat Riddles (#163), and yes, there's the 4d/7d split chord.

It works great in a decending octave run 4d/7d, 3b/6b, 2d/5d, 1d/4d, 1b/4b, 1d/4d, 2d
the beat is on the 4d/7d and the 1b/4b
GermanHarpist
541 posts
Jul 31, 2009
7:35 AM


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