jonsparrow
667 posts
Jul 27, 2009
5:50 PM
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if you could sell your soul in order to become the best blues man ever would you? i cant cause i allready unfortunately sold my soul a long time ago for something crappy. but at the time it seemed like a good idea.
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Kyzer Sosa
5 posts
Jul 27, 2009
6:03 PM
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Nothing worth a damn has ever come free. It's the love of learning, and drive to spend the time and effort, for me, that will make me a badass pro...Most I see who I observe as masters of the instrument, are typically older and distinguished. Not all of them but most. It puts it into perspective what it takes to get to that level. And to sell my soul for the journey that takes me there... I'll just say that I'll keep my contract with the devil for something thats out of my reach, instead of something i know i can do with hard work and persistence.
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arzajac
35 posts
Jul 27, 2009
6:41 PM
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I'm very lucky. I'm pretty damn good at what I do for a living (has nothing to do with music). I have nothing to prove.
But I don't live for my job.
Learning music adds enjoyment to my life. Like in the Van Morrison song "cleaning windows". He's happy to put up with mundane life so that at the end of the week, he can go and blow some sax.
But if I were suddenly to master it, I guess it would become boring and I would have to move on to something else.
Last Edited by on Jul 27, 2009 6:41 PM
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Bluzdude46
88 posts
Jul 27, 2009
6:55 PM
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sell your soul? Adam swears he can't find that Crossroads in Mississippi so there goes that idea
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KeithE
24 posts
Jul 27, 2009
8:08 PM
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Only if I knew that Ralph Macchio would bail me out...
In case anyone is interested here's a place to watch Crossroads that's legitimate and supported by some ads that are inserted. (Hulu sent me here.) I just watched this last week and it worked fine, although after I put my laptop to sleep halfway through I had to futz a little to get back to where I left off:
Crossroads the movie at Crackle
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jonsparrow
669 posts
Jul 27, 2009
10:28 PM
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^^ LOL
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geordiebluesman
210 posts
Jul 28, 2009
2:02 AM
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As an athiest i don't have this option, But i would gladly sell my wife!
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Buzadero
107 posts
Jul 28, 2009
6:58 AM
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My personal advice is to consciously refrain from ever using the phrase "I'd give my left nut....".
I can tell you from personal experience that the open-market value is alarmingly less than you'd think.
My soul? I'm not completely clear, but it is entirely probable that, like jonsparrow, I traded mine for something crappy some time ago. However, it may be that I could have bought it back with the money I spent with Betty Ford in 1984.
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~Buzadero
Underwater Janitor, Patriot
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sopwithcamels266
180 posts
Jul 28, 2009
9:51 AM
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jonsparrow =if you could sell your soul in order to become the best blues man ever would you?
No, is the answer to the question.To get good at anything you got to work F...... hard.I am of the belief that the harder you work in this life sets you up for next time whereever that may be.
That was philosophy of the greats like Dizzy gelespie and Art Blakey.
You see you need to be thinking in this way so as long as your in good health you will still be playing and searching for new stuff when your 80 and may be even 90 years old.
Your average jazz pro will often deny it but there will have been a period in their life where they have already been playing for some time decide to devote 2 to 3 years of playing at least 8 to 10 hours ago 365 days ayear workout, that not including any kind of gigs, just woodsheading.
( the decision can be made at any stage in your life but that's one of the secrets. And you don't take it on until you have got all the elementary s... down first)
They will probably never need to do that kind of intensity again in their lives but that amount of focus is what is required.Depending on the complexitiy of the instrument they have chosen for some a little longer.
To me there is no such thing as best as in best ever.
That's Idealism, it dosen't exsist in music of any kind.
Some folk say Robert Johnson sold his soul to the Devil. Well may be he did. I studied some of his tunes and there is some dark s.... in there for sure.
The fact is he was dead at 23.
Last Edited by on Jul 28, 2009 9:53 AM
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geordiebluesman
214 posts
Jul 28, 2009
11:02 AM
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Well said that man!
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bdr
31 posts
Jul 28, 2009
12:30 PM
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theres a great scene in the movie O brother where art thou where the 3 guys pick up Tommy Johnson at the crossroads
Ulysses Everett McGill: What'd the devil give you for your soul, Tommy?
Tommy Johnson: Well, he taught me to play this here guitar real good.
Delmar O'Donnell: Oh son, for that you sold your everlasting soul?
Tommy Johnson: Well, I wasn't usin' it.
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My granddad gave me some sound advice on his deathbed.
"It's worth spending money on good speakers," he told me.
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mickil
404 posts
Jul 28, 2009
1:10 PM
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If it doesn't come at a cost, i.e. time and work, you'd never appreciate it anyway. That is the essence of mortality, though, I realise the question was purely metaphorical.
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'If it sounds GOOD to you, it's bitchen; if it sounds BAD to YOU, it's shitty' - Frank Zappa
http://www.youtube.com/user/SlimHarpMick
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nacoran
131 posts
Jul 28, 2009
2:11 PM
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bdr- I just picked up the soundtrack!
As to whether I'd sell my soul, I'm in the Atheist camp, but if some mad scientist walked up to me and told me he had the brain tapes for all the greatest harp players of all time and wanted to download them into my head (and somehow convinced me he really could do it) I'd take it. Then I'd go out to the woodshed and try to get even better. I'd never refuse a free leg up. I'd just use it to climb higher than I could without it. Now, if there is a price tag... I don't think I'd give up any body parts for it (maybe some toes).
I disagree with mickil that if it doesn't cost something you can't appreciate it. I might appreciate a free big screen TV MORE if I worked for it, but that doesn't mean I couldn't appreciate a free one a lot too.
I think there are a couple parts to enjoying playing the harmonica. Part of it is the challenge. Part of it is making something that sounds like you want it to. Part of it is just getting lost in the moment. If I could suddenly use the harmonica to get the musical ideas out of my head to my satisfaction by 'selling my soul' I'd do it because to me, the end is getting that idea out into the world.
That being said, I write lots of lyrics, and I'm the sort of person who gets a lot of enjoyment from hearing someone else perform them, even more than performing them myself (because they usually do a better job at making my music sound great, and having my music sound great is what I'm really after. I think of myself as a writer first and a musician second).
And so here is a related question:
How much can you digitally edit a piece of music before it loses its soul?
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gene
221 posts
Jul 28, 2009
2:36 PM
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Another atheist here.
I don't believe in that stuff, but if I did, I'd never sell my soul. My soul would be gone forever. Forever's an awful long time.
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ZackPomerleau
359 posts
Jul 28, 2009
5:33 PM
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sop, we may have clashed at times, but the one thing I REALLY respect about you is your philosophy on hard work. I am a younger musician and that is EXACTLY what I try to do. If the devil came to my door I'd just leave. I'd be fine playing the way I can. I'd miss the journey I need to take to be a better player.
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walterharp
2 posts
Jul 28, 2009
5:38 PM
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Nope, but I would swear Ricci did, except he claims to be "done with the devil"
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jonsparrow
678 posts
Jul 28, 2009
6:47 PM
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dam theres alot of atheist here.
walterharp said:
"Nope, but I would swear Ricci did, except he claims to be "done with the devil" "
ya but the full lyric says "done with the devil but the devils not done with you."
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Patrick Barker
366 posts
Jul 28, 2009
8:53 PM
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I'm also an atheist (agnostic atheist) but the way I see it if god and satan exist then technically I already belong to satan so I might as well sell my soul...
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"Without music, life would be a mistake" -Nietzsche
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gene
222 posts
Jul 28, 2009
10:06 PM
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Question for believers:
Who owns your soul in the first place: you or God? If God owns it, CAN you sell it?
Edit:
I read some Christian rhetoric that says the devil owns your soul by default until you accept Jesus.
Last Edited by on Jul 29, 2009 4:18 AM
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mojojojo
20 posts
Jul 31, 2009
2:00 AM
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You don't have to sell your soul to the devil to be his follower....seems like a lot of people think that being a good God-fearing person is boring and predictable and encroaches on their "freedom".
The devil has no real power or ownership over people...just a lot of suggestions to get us to debase ourselves, which will put you out of favor with the Big Guy. God, not the devil, has authority to put someone in hell. He is the Creator after all.
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sopwithcamels266
182 posts
Jul 31, 2009
9:20 AM
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For folk that don't get it ha ha, read James 1-5 of the New testement.
Well everyone thinks different and thats fine by me man. It's their loss not mine ha ha.
It makes you who you are for sure.Each to their own.
I don't have to state what I am or what I am not.It's of no business but mine.
Jonsparrows original post was excellent.
One thing that hadn't been approached yet was the possibility of selling your Soul to the Devil as a metaphor for working F......hard.
Too many folk want an easy ride and wonder why they never get there.
The metaphor right.Sacrifice, that is what it is about, you can't have your cake and eat it.
Unless your lucky to have an inheritance, or rich family that frees you up to focus.(So there is long term back up security for years down the road)
Most of us don't so with commitement comes sacrifice.The problem is most are not prepared to give up a lot of material things and ways of life in return for the enrichement of music.
Always looking for a short cut, well there isn't one.
Go on Check out James 1-5 even just out of curiosity no harm done right.
Last Edited by on Jul 31, 2009 9:24 AM
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nacoran
133 posts
Jul 31, 2009
12:46 PM
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I wonder if steroids would help your harp playing... better breath, stronger tongue, faster reflexes, shrunken... never mind. I'll just keep practicing.
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kudzurunner
621 posts
Aug 01, 2009
8:24 PM
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Too late for me.
AG and Jimmy Holmes's brother at the Blue Flame Cafe, Bentonia, MS. Blazing hot day, summer 2009.
Last Edited by on Aug 01, 2009 8:28 PM
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Andrew
480 posts
Aug 02, 2009
3:31 AM
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I need about tree fiddy.
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jonsparrow
714 posts
Aug 02, 2009
7:42 AM
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that is a realy realy crisp lookin picture adam. must have been takin with a real nice camera.
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Harpist
33 posts
Aug 02, 2009
9:12 AM
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You may want to think twice about selling your soul after hearing this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xdkK8WFFWc&feature=related
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scstrickland
145 posts
Aug 02, 2009
9:21 AM
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Sounds like a busy metro station
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jonsparrow
715 posts
Aug 02, 2009
10:55 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tziBhU0A5aQ
first off i dont think hell would realy be in the center of the earth. it would be in some other demention. like heaven is in the clouds.
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Patrick Barker
374 posts
Aug 02, 2009
11:27 AM
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whoa that colorful poster in the picture looks like Billy Gibson's live CD cover
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"Without music, life would be a mistake" -Nietzsche
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