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Elwood
118 posts
Aug 11, 2009
10:55 AM
e.g. Missionary, reverse cowgirl, the wheelbarrow etc.

Ha! See what I did there? Actually, I'm talking about the riff on the song Hoochie Coochie Man. Feel free to chime in on the first thing too, though.

The riff that goes ( 2 1+4+ 2 3' 2 ), I've always thought of as the 1st-position version of Hoochie Coochie Man. Correct?

If so, the 2nd position version would go ( 1 2 1 2" 1 ), right?

And 3rd positon would be ( 6 8 6 7+ 6 ) and some really brutal shit down on the lower octave: ( 3" 4 3" 1+4+ 3")

If those are all correct, would anyone care to tab it out in other positions? What's a great, under-explored position for this most foundational of riffs?

EDIT: This is the Mannish Boy riff, not Hoochie Coochie Man.

Last Edited by on Aug 11, 2009 5:35 PM
GamblersHand
69 posts
Aug 11, 2009
11:28 AM
4th is
2+ 3" 2+ 2 2+

5th is
3 5+ 3 4 3

very easy, just doesn't sound very bluesy

12th is tricky though..
scstrickland
158 posts
Aug 11, 2009
12:50 PM
Is there a difference between Hoochie Coochie Man and I'm A Man?
RyanMortos
253 posts
Aug 11, 2009
1:13 PM
scstrickland,

If by 'Im a man' you mean the song Mannish Boy then yes that is a different song then hootchie coochie man.
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DanP
91 posts
Aug 11, 2009
1:54 PM
I play the Hoochie Coochie riff as 4in 5in 4in 5in 6out. Hoochie Coochie Man and Mannish Boy are different songs. You are probably thinking of I'm a Man by Bo Didldley and Mannish Boy by Muddy Waters which are very similar. The harmonica riff for Mannish Boy is (simplified version) 2in 4out 3in 2in. I play it as 2in 4out 3out 3in bent(first bend) 2in.

Last Edited by on Aug 11, 2009 2:14 PM
Elwood
119 posts
Aug 11, 2009
2:10 PM
Scstrickland has a point. What I've transcribed here is the riff for Mannish Boy. Roughly:

2 4+ 2 3' 2

In fact Hoochie Coochie Man is slightly different phrasing. I think it goes:

2 3' 2 3' 4


Scstrickland is also not incorrect to call it "I'm A Man", as that's a Bo Diddley song in Muddy Waters style that Muddy rearranged as "Mannish Boy".



@Gamblershand: It sounds SO weird in those other positions. I played it in fourth position on a low G and I could swear it gains a menacing quality. Not very pleasant to play though. Fifth position sounds incredibly weak.



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mr_so&so
178 posts
Aug 11, 2009
2:11 PM
Elwood, I find these tab tables for the positions useful (but then again, I made them). You can work out that riff in all the positions that way. Note that 9th position has a typo on the root note. Should be 3''', not 3''. But who uses ninth anyway?
Elwood
120 posts
Aug 11, 2009
2:12 PM
Mr So&So,

You beaut. How did I miss this?

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mickil
442 posts
Aug 11, 2009
3:35 PM
I thought I was a man of the World, but I don't know what a 'reverse cowgirl' is. Still, don't tell me; this probably isn't the place.
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Elwood
121 posts
Aug 11, 2009
4:44 PM
Ah Mickil. I have much to learn from the fine patrons of this forum. But if there's one sacred artform which holds no secrets for me, it is the reverse cowgirl.

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KingoBad
66 posts
Aug 11, 2009
5:04 PM
Hallelujah to the reverse cowgirl.

But I believe the 2nd pos Hoochie Coochie Riff is :

1 2" 1 2" 2
Elwood
122 posts
Aug 11, 2009
5:33 PM
You're absolutely right. The riff I tabbed out initially was Mannish Boy. Same same but different.
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