Thanks Dutch. I haven't played that old harp in a long, long time. Growing up I listened to alot of Sonny Boy Williamson and just loved the way he played Bye Bye Byrd.
Lovely sound and great playing Harpist. Just a thought. Does your company ever wonder why you keep going down to the basement with your laptop and harps? ----------
Lol! As long as I do it on my lunch hour there is no concern. I actually use a digital Sony Cyber Shot camera to record, not a laptop. I then bring the camera home and load the file on to my laptop.
Is that a Steve Baker Special harp, or is tuned diferently? What exactly is the difference between the 365sbs and the regular 365 14hole harp? How are they both tuned? If I remember right, doesn't the SBS have the 1, 2,& 3 holes repeated an octave lower, as well as an extra note at the top. While I'm asking, what about the 364 12hole harp? I know they make a solo tuned one but what's the other tuning they use? Sorry for the numerous questions. Thanks.
The Steve Baker is tuned with the first 4 holes a lower octave--then the second four holes a normal tuning--which means the first four are repeated (an octave higher)--then it just goes up like a normal harp.
I got a solo tuned one by accident once--haven't been able to find a real use for it--I think it's just tuned straight out--without the 2 draw and three blow same note thing.
The 12-hole 364's I have are just low-tuned C harps--I've never taken the time to find out what the two extra holes are for--there is a 14 holer that is tuned the same as the 12, I think--but the site I got them from said to just save some money and go for the 12--unless you're like Jerry Reed or something. . .
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Harpist? Is that a 12 or 14 hole Marine Band. If it's 12 that would make it an old 364 not the 365 SBS and it is tuned just like a Chromatic without the slide I believe the Echo Vamper is the same instrument that was distributed in Europe. I have one 364 with an out of tune reed that I need to open up and re-tune. I have a nice Echo Vamper on it's way. The Old 364 is destined to the Vintage collection and I may work on the Vamper to play. The low notes really are cool.
Ryan, oldwailer. My 14 hole 365sbs has 3 holes lower and one hole higher than the usual harp. The higher hole is not much help but the 3 lower is very good for boogie
That 365 is awesome... I love those. The 364 is a bit too wide at the mouth, the 365 is just about perfect. It's always great for an old harp to get a day in the sun.
Dave, I'm loving some of these Old Hohner Harps I'm finding. I started out grabbing some cheap ones for parts, reeds, plates, nails ect. and for practicing setting them up and a few of the real old ones impressed me so much I started resurrecting them.
(I don't know anything really about 364, 365. That's why I've given the full specs)
I like them both. I think they both sound as good as the 40-year-old ones. It's a little bit easier to bend the 2- and 3-holes on the SBS, but may just be because the gapping is not identical. OB's are crazily easy on the SBS, but again, I can't remember how I gapped the non-SBS because that's the older harp.
Of course one huge difference is you can OB the 7 on the SBS because the 7-draw is a higher note, but you can only blow-bend the 7-bow on the straight 365/28 because the 7-draw is a lower note.
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But I'm still not sure what the tuning for the regular 365 is, maybe Andrew or Harpist could answer this since you both have one in the key of C. If there's anybody that could answer this that would great. I've seen a couple videos of Sugar Blue using a 14 hole harp, I wonder if he's using the regular 365 or the SBS model.
Thank you Andrew, that definately clears things up. It seems that the regular 365 in C is just like a low C with four extra notes added to the top end. In my opinion it seems that between the 2 the SBS would be the more interesting/unique one. Since I don't think the extra holes at the top would be that much of a benefit I'd rather just get a regular low C harp than the 365, but the 365SBS does look like it'd be fun to play around with.
Yeah, the regular is best treated as a low C with the top 4 holes a waste of space (and money). The SBS gives you two octaves of I-chord goodness and opportunities for call and response, but the only thing you have to get used to is the 5 draw: on the SBS it gives you the (uninteresting, because there's no tension) tonic (i.e. G) instead of the (more interesting) minor 7th (i.e. F). That means you have to bend the 5-draw down for the F, and so you can't quite play the same chords that you can on a regular harp.
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If I wanted to buy a SBS in C, it sound just like the one in Harpist's video or SBW's Bye bye Bird? Or do I actually need to order a "low" c? ---------- http://www.youtube.com/user/mgimino Michael
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