jonsparrow
1122 posts
Sep 29, 2009
8:29 PM
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ok so i got me the peterson stroboflip. im totally lost. iv been at this for hours. can some one give me some good tips on what to do. how to set up the tuner, how to tune the harp, other then scrape from the tip to sharp an scrape from the base to flaten. some one explain the strobe too?! i know up is to sharp down is too flat, but why are there 4 of them an what do i do with them??? i think it has something to do with octaves but so what? what do i do? ahhh!!! i scraped these reeds almost flat going back an forth an i have a D note ringing in my head now. do i have to tune it by octaves or can i do it note by note?
Last Edited by on Sep 29, 2009 10:37 PM
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jonsparrow
1123 posts
Sep 29, 2009
9:55 PM
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Original Marine Band Tuning Cent Offsets from Equal Temperament
Hole #____1_____2____3____4_____5____6____7_____8____9____10
Blow ____0___-14___+2____0___-14___+2____0___-14___+2_____0
Draw ___+4____+2__-12___+4___-27___+6__-12____+4__-27____+6
buddah posted this on a old thread. what do i do with this?
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jonsparrow
1125 posts
Sep 30, 2009
9:14 AM
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no that just fucked every thing up worse.
anyone?
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tookatooka
569 posts
Sep 30, 2009
9:19 AM
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Hi Jonsparrow, watching this thread cos I want to learn too. I'm using the seventh string online tuner though. Hope you get some replies soon.
Original Marine Band Tuning Cent Offsets from Equal Temperament
Hole #____1_____2____3____4_____5____6____7_____8____9____10
Blow ____0___-14___+2____0___-14___+2____0___-14___+2_____0
Draw ___+4____+2__-12___+4___-27___+6__-12____+4__-27____+6
The table you posted tells you how many cents up or down the reed should be tuned to. I think.
Eg Hole 1 Blow tuned to exact C. Hole 1 Draw tuned to D +4 cents. Assuming it's a C harp.
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Last Edited by on Sep 30, 2009 9:29 AM
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jonsparrow
1126 posts
Sep 30, 2009
9:28 AM
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ya i tried programing my tuner to that but it totally messed up my harp. it tuned the 2 draw to the 2 blow. i must be doing something wrong.
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Jim Rumbaugh
91 posts
Sep 30, 2009
10:37 AM
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I have played with tuning using only a free software downlaod tuner. Here is some GENERAL ideas.
1) If you don't know exactly what you are trying to tune to, go for regular tuning. When in doubt, don't go fancy. There is a place for equal temperment, just tuning, and the bunch of other tuning schemes that are out there. It's kind of like this quote "the nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them"
2) grab a harp that you like the sound of, that you think is in tune. Check it's tuning against your tuner. I was surprised to find that almost every note on a new harp is sharp. I also found out that the harder I draw, the more the note flattens. Therefore, you may want to sharpen your draw notes depending on how hard you draw.
3) Blues players that play second position cross may perfer different tunings to those that play a lot of straight harp 1st position. Notice I said MAY. Example, as I look at the suggested Marine Band tuning tuning that was posted above, notice that the 3rd of the blow chord is flattened in each octave. That may produce a nice blow chord, but what about a played melody when the primary chord is not the blow chord? (cross harp) You have now flattened the 6th note of the tonic chord, but then you can say, who cares about the 6th note of a scale??
4) I ussually only find a few notes off. I get them close, and I'm happy again.
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Jim Rumbaugh
92 posts
Sep 30, 2009
12:59 PM
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Here's a link to what Pat Missin says about tuning. I trust his comments over mine.
http://www.patmissin.com/tunings/tun8.html
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wheezer
98 posts
Oct 01, 2009
8:33 AM
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Hi Johnsparrow, thanks for posting that tuning chart, it is very useful information. If you find any more from other manufacturers please post them.
As for tuners, I downloaded (free) the Seventh String
online tuner and found it very easy to use.
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Tuckster
225 posts
Oct 03, 2009
7:49 PM
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Here's a link from Richard Sleigh about ET vs. JI;
http://www.harmonicatunes.com/justintonationtuningforharmonicas
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sorin
73 posts
Oct 03, 2009
7:58 PM
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wheezer , golden melody ,suzuki (all of the models) , bushman deltafrost ,leeoskar are all ET which it means that all the numbers that you see in the chart are 0 (zero).
Last Edited by on Oct 03, 2009 9:25 PM
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wheezer
108 posts
Oct 04, 2009
3:04 AM
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Thanks Sorin.
I've been experimenting with different tunings lately
and have just set up some MB's and old (pre ms) Pro harps
ET with the blow plate to 442HZ and the draw plates to
445HZ.
Some of these have been given to another player who has always used MB's for the last 40 yrs. in the origional tuning and we are going to compare notes.
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