tookatooka
584 posts
Oct 03, 2009
8:58 AM
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Trying to satisfy the requirements of such a diverse forum membership will be an impossible task. Therefore here is the ‘First Draft’ of the rules which is subject to change, depending on feedback.
Please Note. If you disagree with a rule. Tell us what you think it should be, how it could be administered and how you can help with the running of HPC3 to make that rule realisable.
Rules. ‘Blow Your Brains Out’. HPC3 Solo Harp Jam Challenge.
1. It’s a Solo Harp Jam Challenge.
Amplification , Effects, Kick drums, Percussive rhythm tracks, Whooping, Stomping and Foot Tapping - Yes.
Any other backing track, musical instrument accompaniment, singing, loops - No.
2. Duration must not exceed 3 minutes.
3. Entries to be submitted to the ‘HPC3 Solo Harp Jam Challenge’ playlist on the Harpfriends Channel on YouTube by 31st January 2010.
Ensure the words ‘HPC3 Solo Harp Jam Challenge’ and your handle are included in the Title and Description fields of your YouTube entry.
The description field should also contain information about the length of time you have been playing and your perception of your skill level based on Adams guidelines which you can find here: Assess your skill level.
You may also want to include whether or not you invite comments, the type and key of harp, effects pedal used, title of piece etc. This would be useful information for others.
4. There is only one Challenge. Some people wanted to have separate challenges for the different skill levels. But this would be an administrative nightmare. If you want to do that, then administer and co-ordinate HPC4 if you have the time and can think of an efficient, easy way to do it. Anyway, who is to say that a relative beginner may not produce a more enthusiastic, soulful and touching piece than someone who may be technically perfect but plays without feeling?
5. After the deadline each participant will be encouraged to vote for the five entries they like the most.
Your individual judgement on technique, creativity, entertainment value and musical taste and whether you would want to watch it again is what counts.
Please be mindful of the participants skill level before making any comments if they are invited. We wouldn’t want enthusiastic beginners discouraged by thoughtlessness.
Constructive criticism and tips would be welcomed by those who do invite comments and don’t forget we are doing this for fun. It’s better to say nothing than be rude.
6. The overall judging system has yet to be decided but it would make sense for the participants to determine who should be in the top five and for those to go through to be judged by either the participants again but using just one vote, or, if we are lucky, a higher authority. There is to be one overall Challenge Champion or a tie if circumstances demand. The final judging will be considered and announced nearer the time.
Links to useful information.
Assess your skill level.
How to submit videos to YouTube.
HPC3 YouTube Playlist. You need to be signed in to Harpfriends to use this link.
Last Edited by on Oct 07, 2009 2:13 PM
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Ant138
143 posts
Oct 03, 2009
10:14 AM
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----------  sounds fair to me.
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isaacullah
378 posts
Oct 03, 2009
11:39 AM
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"4. There is only one Challenge. Some people wanted to have separate challenges for the different skill levels. But this would be an administrative nightmare. If you want to do that, then administer and co-ordinate HPC4 if you have the time and can think of an efficient, easy way to do it. Anyway, who is to say that that a relative beginner may not produce a more enthusiastic, soulful and touching piece than someone who may be technically perfect but plays without feeling?"
"Please be mindful of the participants skill level before making any comments if they are invited. We wouldn’t want enthusiastic beginners discouraged by thoughtlessness."
Yes, this is exactly what I thought was going on. I hadn't realized that anyone wanted to make different competitions for the various skill levels. Now I understand what Mickil was going off about. I agree with the way this has been decided. It's what I was implicitly doing before when I voted in both HPC's (and why I did not vote for Christelle in the last one, even though her version was good). ONE competition, for all, but vote according to how well the person performs according tho their own abilities! a pro doing well is much less impressive to me than a novice doing well.
Isaac
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The magnificent YouTube channel of the internet user known as "isaacullah"
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tookatooka
596 posts
Oct 05, 2009
1:59 PM
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bump
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mickil
552 posts
Oct 05, 2009
3:13 PM
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tooka,
That sounds spot on to me.
Providing that the 'competitive' nature of Isaacullah and GermanHarpist's original idea isn't usurped - if that's not too strong a word - then I'm really looking forward to this one; lot's more variety.
Great job.
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YouTube SlimHarpMick
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wallyns10
18 posts
Oct 05, 2009
11:55 PM
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This may be a very stupid question (I say this because I'm almost sure I know the answer) but I feel compelled to ask, being new and all: could we be listening to an ipod (or the likes) or would that fall under the -NO category? I'm guessing no, but I figured I might get lucky...you never know.
Also, is there a prize or is this just for bragging rights?
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tookatooka
598 posts
Oct 06, 2009
2:09 AM
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#mickil#
Phew!
#wally#
As long as the ipod sound doesn't bleed into your performance, I don't see why not. But wouldn't that mean that you wouldn't be hearing exactly what you record? You'd be listening to the ipod in one ear and the harp in the other and get a false impression of what the final sound will be. It could be an impedance to your playing.
The prize is bragging rights of the highest order.
I hope I answered your questions, let me know if I haven't, Oh! and a warm welcome to the forum wally.
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Last Edited by on Oct 06, 2009 2:11 AM
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mickil
553 posts
Oct 06, 2009
3:09 AM
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#tooka#
ha ha ! or LOL in the modern parlance.
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YouTube SlimHarpMick
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jaymcc28
162 posts
Oct 06, 2009
8:39 AM
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I was one of the guys pushing for the 'ability classification' thing and this captures it perfectly. We don't need separate categories, just that we keep in mind each players experience prior to judging. Good stuff. I'm looking forward to it.
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tookatooka
599 posts
Oct 06, 2009
2:13 PM
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Yes. Item 2.
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phogi
66 posts
Oct 07, 2009
3:41 AM
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Ah, thanks.
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Ant138
149 posts
Oct 07, 2009
2:04 PM
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can i ask if whooping is allowed?
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tookatooka
604 posts
Oct 07, 2009
2:12 PM
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Hi Ant, I really don't see why not, it's all part and parcel of advanced chugging in my opinion. I'll add it to the rules now.
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Ant138
151 posts
Oct 08, 2009
12:01 AM
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Thank's tookatooka!!!
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Hobostubs Ashlock
21 posts
Oct 08, 2009
12:26 AM
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whats hooping is it that weird throat noise you do when you chug.are hick ups allowed lol
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tookatooka
606 posts
Oct 08, 2009
2:16 AM
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Whooping is when you whoop chugga whoop chugga whoop chugga chugga chugga Oh! Listen to Sonny Terry.
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Hobostubs Ashlock
23 posts
Oct 08, 2009
2:40 AM
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thank you tookatooka ill check him out
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