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rabbit
51 posts
Oct 31, 2009
3:21 PM
If you've done it talk to me, please.

I'm interested in clean, warm (jazz) tones.
Can add outboard reverb box, a touch of
this is always necessary for me. Prefer
built-in, 'been spoiled by my 'DeLuxe.'

Why do I think this could give a really good result?
O.K., go ahead and tell me I'm crazy.
Thanks.
congaron
227 posts
Oct 31, 2009
3:26 PM
Give it a shot if you have one to try..tone is pretty subjective. I am thinking about putting my 100 watt solid state amp with 2 12's back in service after reading the recent ss heresy thread. I know WAY more about mic technique now than i did when i gave up on that amp.
ZackPomerleau
429 posts
Oct 31, 2009
3:39 PM
It sounds good, I've tried :)
jonsparrow
1258 posts
Oct 31, 2009
4:33 PM
technically there all guitar amps. unless you have a harpgear, or sonny boy. i use my valve jr for guitar as well as harp.
JimInMO
11 posts
Oct 31, 2009
5:05 PM
I really like my stock Fender Blues Deluxe RI for both guitar and harmonica. Don't like lugging around the 40+lbs anymore. I tried a Fender Super Champ XD. Didn't care much for it. Spoiled by the BD RI I guess. Might try a Pro Jr. or Valve Jr. if I run across either on a trial basis. I think the Pro might work with a little touch up.
rabbit
52 posts
Oct 31, 2009
7:56 PM
Thank you, thank you, thank you!

jonsparrow's post made me realize
I should've been more specific.

I do have a Harpgear, or other harp-specific
amp in mind. Physically small & light, not
overly powerful. Ideal for horsing around
daily with both instruments.

Zack,
You sounded good on the vid you posted, thanks.
LittleJoeSamson
108 posts
Nov 01, 2009
12:33 AM
I have an early '70's Traynor YGL-3 Mark III...a twin 12" ten tube beast that I lug around for doing outdoor gigs. I have voiced it to be more harp friendly...mainly with 12AT7 variants replacing the 12AX7 tubes, and muffling the speakers.

I've had git buddies try it out, and they are pleased with the british sound for them, with lots more headroom before breakup.
Course, the rockers and death metal guys don't like it at all.
ZackPomerleau
432 posts
Nov 01, 2009
1:54 AM
Thank you so much man!!!
LittleJoeSamson
110 posts
Nov 01, 2009
5:34 PM
Also, I recently felt it was time to check on re-tubing my '41 Gibson archtop. The tone was good, but the volume became kind of mushy. Obviously, it will not be TOO loud, and I don't want it that way, but it seemed lacking something.
I was hoping it not the almost 70YO field coil speaker wearing out.
So, I experimented with different 6V6 drive tubes. The old tubes are 1952 Magnavox. I got a good deal on two matched pairs of CBS greyglass. Best sounding combo were the middle tubes as tested of the four.
Then I went to my tech buddie that restores mainly vintage auto radios, and we went through his bucket of stock 6V6's and found an exactly matched pair of Raytheons made for Delco...so they very likely were used in a car. Man, are they HOT. The amp really came to life then. For me, a little too much so.
He plays some guitar and was amazed at the volume and the tone with the Delcos.
He gave the tubes to me, but I switched back to the greys when I got home. So now I have extras - six in all.

When we tested the Magnovox set, sure enough, they were unbalanced. One tested strong, like new. The other had no shorts or leaks, but took almost a minute to warm up and was just barely over the "good" line.

Would like to hear someone with a decent Telecaster to try it, to hear if it emulates the Muddy Waters sound.
For harp, it's THAT 50's Chicago sound.
rabbit
54 posts
Nov 16, 2009
6:38 PM
Thanks for the responses and you're welcome, Zack. :)

LittleJoe, I'd love to see & hear that amp!

When I get the time & energy I am going to have to hunt
down folks with harp-specific amps and try my guit-fiddles
on 'em.

I'm nursing a hunch that a good harp amp may also
give the jazz tones I like. Jazz guitar guys are noted
for rolling off most of the treble. What then of an amp
with enhanced bass characteristics in the region of the
tenor voice (guitar & harp too, I think?)
LittleJoeSamson
125 posts
Nov 16, 2009
7:17 PM
Yeah. I know Kim Wilson has one...and I think it likely that it is the one featured as Muddy Waters early amp in "Cadillac Records".
I've looked all around for pics on the internet. Nothing. You'll just have to see the DVD.


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