dfwdlg
71 posts
Nov 03, 2009
11:37 AM
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My wife spends all our $$$. To get even, I am thinking of fulfilling my frequent daydream that includes a 12-key set of 1847 harps, the full tool kit, and a nice inventory of replacement reeds. Maybe I can live with 7 keys in a pinch.
How much would that cost and who thinks it is worth it?
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tookatooka
737 posts
Nov 03, 2009
11:45 AM
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Go for it. It's only the equivalent to one pair of boots and a pair of frilly knickers. That'll show her.
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barbequebob
28 posts
Nov 03, 2009
11:47 AM
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Their tool kit has all very high quality tools, mainly made by Wiha, a German professional grade toolmaker, kind of an equivalent to a company like SnapOn or Matco in the automitive industry.
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KeithE
45 posts
Nov 03, 2009
12:01 PM
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I would guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 12*$85 + $140 = $1160 for the harps and toolkit. (I'm basing this $85 on the set of 5 price.)
The replacement reedplates aren't cheap about $65 per set - not sure if you can buy replacement reeds in any other form.
You could browse around the Seydel site and see their prices and offerings. Or call up a Seydel dealer to see if you can get a better deal.
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nacoran
316 posts
Nov 03, 2009
12:37 PM
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Your thinking small. Remember, the 1847 comes in several low tunings. I count 18 harps just for the major keys, all the way down to a low C.
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Bluzdude46
251 posts
Nov 03, 2009
12:47 PM
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I still have the slightly used 1847's in A and F I'm willing to sell for $30 ea
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dfwdlg
72 posts
Nov 03, 2009
2:12 PM
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2 x tooka: you were right. Paying a bill for my wife's clothes is what sparked my trip to the MBH forum.
KeithE: that will be sad if you are right about the reeds coming by plate only. Half my motivation to go with Seydel was to be able to fix a reed without hassle because I thought they had all pieces of the puzzle available. I'm still not sure if the stainless reeds can be easily gapped though.
nacoran: haven't tried the low harps yet, although seeing Rupert play some in his fix-it DVDs and Rick Estrin play some in his new DVDs has me a little more interested.
Bluzdude: what makes you want to get rid of your 1847s. I've never played them but heard Jimi Lee do Whammer Jammer with an 1847 in a rack once and figured they must play pretty well.
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mickil
599 posts
Nov 03, 2009
2:45 PM
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I may be wrong, but I think you can use Soloist Pro reed plates in the 1847. If so then it's affordable to mantain them, be it with different reeds.
Or, get a set of SPros and order those gorgeous 1847 covers from Seydel as and when you can afford them. I think parts from both lines are fully interchangeable, except for the 1847+.
Anyone care to confirm this?
EDIT: Just a word of caution about those stainless steel reeds. To me, they lack the delicacy of, for example, those used in Hohner's HM harps.
That little 6 blow scoop - not overblow - that Doc uses in his version of St Louis Blues, I can get it no sweat on a SP20 or MB Dlx; on an 1847, I just can't make it happen.
Also, a quiet 3 draw bend with throat vibrato, that's really hard to control on an 1847, at least to me.
I presume these difficulties are due to the nature of the reed material and / or their thickness.
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KC69
109 posts
Nov 03, 2009
3:31 PM
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Bluzdude46: If your Seydels are 1847 classic and in good shape, i'll take em. Been needing an F and I pound A harps pretty hard.
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KC69
110 posts
Nov 05, 2009
7:54 AM
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Just keepig this alive a little longer. I'm hoping Bluzdude46 is still interested in selling his 2 Seydel Harps as written above. I am still interested in buying the "F" and the "A" Harps at $30.00 each.
And I Thank You!! K.C.
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walterharp
105 posts
Nov 05, 2009
9:56 AM
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i just opened up my 1847 to install a blown 5 draw reed, that went after 3 months of playing. It takes me about a year for reeds to fatigue in my most heavily used harmonicas (C and A)with bronze or phosphor bronze reeds, so this was too fast. The other disappointment was extensive rust inside of the cover plates...why would they not use a stainless cover plate if they use it for the reeds? The outsides are in beautiful shape, but the inside, where they contact the reed plates are a total mess, to the point where i would worry about rust falling into the reeds during playing. I dry my harps after playing, and they claim they can go through the dishwasher, so the cover plate issue is a significant problem with this harp in my mind. we will see how the second set of reeds holds up.
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barbequebob
46 posts
Nov 05, 2009
10:02 AM
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The coverplates on the 1847's are made of stainless steel, but a thick, heavy grade of it. You should get in touch with Rupert Oysler at http://www.seydelusa.com as he's also a customizer and is the US sales rep for them and he sould take good care of you regarding that.
You also need to remember the thing I keep saying about breath force because those harps have a much tighter slot tolerance than any other stock harp with the exception of the Suzuki Manji and the harder you play these harps because of the tight slot tolerances (which is what makes this and the Manji play louder and easier because there is considerably less air leakage because of the tight tolerance) when played too hard all the time, it will be more subject to getting blown out faster.
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walterharp
106 posts
Nov 05, 2009
11:20 AM
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so maybe something is wrong with the coverplates, cause I have never seen stainless rust to that degree.
The breath force is not an issue, I emboss my other harps pretty tight and reeds rarely fail. This includes Lee Oscar, Hohner MS series, Delta Frost, Suzuki Promaster, maybe I just got a bad reed. Oysler never responded to an email.
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walterharp
107 posts
Nov 05, 2009
11:22 AM
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oh yeah, and hering 1923 vintage does not blow out even tightened way up, even with tight gasping on all
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barbequebob
48 posts
Nov 05, 2009
11:26 AM
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Walter, get in touch with Rupert Oysler at http://www.seydelusa.com ASAP and he should take good care of you. Also the guy that used to work with Suzuki in a similar postion there now works for Seydel. Rupert usually responds very quickly. On the Sedyel USA website, his phone number is listed there too.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
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mickil
600 posts
Nov 05, 2009
12:41 PM
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walterharp,
I've e-mailed Rupert using the form on Seydel's website; it doesn't work. Someone probably goofed up the coding - not a hard bit of coding!
Anyway, copy the e-mail address and paste it into a regular e-mail. He gets back quickly and courteously.
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walterharp
108 posts
Nov 05, 2009
1:49 PM
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thanks guys
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