nick67
32 posts
Nov 20, 2009
7:39 AM
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Funny thing music
You start at x and end up at z
My first love of music was ska reggae when i was young.
I loved it and thought it was great and groovy .
Then to cut a long story short i listened to punk rock,heavy metal and r n b untill i listened to the blues,wich is the origin of most modern music.
To me the oooh or the who were the pioneers of modern blues in the sixties early seventies and Roger Daltreys harp playing was pretty good too what do you think?
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Delta Dirt
43 posts
Nov 20, 2009
11:01 AM
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Very small drop in a very large pool of Blues inspired Englishmen.
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blogward
11 posts
Nov 20, 2009
4:20 PM
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Umm, I think a certain combo called the Rolling Stones might take issue with you there. Them, the Yardbirds and Led Zeppelin:) Daltrey's harp is passable, like Jagger and Jones's was - but Robert Plant's harp playing is absolutely TERRIBLE.
Last Edited by on Nov 20, 2009 4:57 PM
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DanP
99 posts
Nov 20, 2009
4:35 PM
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Even though I like most of The Who's music, when I think of great harmonica players, Roger Daltrey does not come to mind.
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nick67
33 posts
Nov 21, 2009
6:26 AM
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Have you ever heard baba o riley when roger plays the end piece on a Bb harp not bad and a lot of the whos blues stuff was mostly played in the early days.
The Who too me moved music foward wheras the stones moved it sideways.
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Kingley
512 posts
Nov 21, 2009
6:59 AM
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The Who never come to my mind as blues or as a point of interest for harmonica, nor do the Stones, Beatles, Animals, Kinks or any of the Sixties and Seventies British scene.
I can honestly say that I don't like any of the music of any of them. To me they are all simply nauseating to listen too.
As an Englishman when it comes to the Sixties and Seventies I prefer by far the Soul, R & B and Blues music coming out of America to the British drivel of the time.
I'm sure there are plenty of people who disagree with me. But that's my opinion and it's not going to change.
Last Edited by on Nov 21, 2009 7:01 AM
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jbone
204 posts
Nov 21, 2009
7:12 AM
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true, daltry got my attention with a harp on a couple of things back there in the 70's. at that time virtually anyone who could make 3 notes come out of a harp and sound like they knew what they were doing were, to me, shamans of the arcane. then there was jagger, plant, and the one who really got my attention, mayall.
truth to tell it was dylan's seemingly horrendous playing that convinced me to pursue harp. i thought, if he can make a living playing like that, i ought to ber able to do SOMEthing.
i have never seen the who as blues. they have done some incredible stuff which i related to very well as an angry young man. since i'm older now and not so angry i don't have much interest in the style they did back then. townsend did a couple of very cool things over the years, "face the face" which featured a harp guy doing more funk/rock stuff but to me very impressive, and "eminence front" which i have no idea if a harp would fit in there but it was a great piece nonetheless.
the guys who came up here in the states ie cotton, carey bell, the walters, etc etc, reigned supreme in that era.
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TexasJeff
8 posts
Nov 21, 2009
8:06 AM
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I think the post points to the fact that these bands gave exposure to the original bluesmen.
I agree that hese Brit bands are not blues bands. They are rock bands first. If any of the 60-70s Brit bands HAD to be classified as blues the Stones come closest.
Perhaps we are forgetting a guy named Clapton who while not a band had a big influence on the formation of "modern blues".
Last Edited by on Nov 21, 2009 8:09 AM
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blogward
15 posts
Nov 22, 2009
8:24 AM
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"I'm sure there are plenty of people who disagree with me. But that's my opinion and it's not going to change. "
I'm sure there are thousands of people who agree with you too.
Last Edited by on Nov 22, 2009 8:25 AM
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The Gloth
187 posts
Nov 23, 2009
12:26 AM
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I think it's more a question of taste than of opinion. I think that Led Zeppelin and the Animals did pretty well in blues, and the Stones had some good blues too.
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wallyns10
92 posts
Nov 23, 2009
2:36 AM
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What about Cream and the Allman Brothers? The Band was kinda blusey but not in the Chicago sense...I get much more of a New Orleansish feel. That said they were too musicaly diverse to be considered in one set genre, and blues wouldn't be the closest I don't think.
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Oisin
391 posts
Nov 23, 2009
9:47 AM
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Talking about the Who (one of the best bands ever!!) and the harmonica....check this out!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Hohner-3-way-Polyphonia-Harmonica_W0QQitemZ230397185930QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MusicalInstr_Harmonicas_RL?hash=item35a4be0f8a
Kingley...you can't say all of English music of the 60's was drivel(well you can but you'd be wrong!!)...What about The Action, Them , Yardbirds...the list is too big to mention. It was the evolution of the Blues by English bands that gave us some of the best bands of the 60s and 70s.Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page all played in the Yardbirds at one time.
They may not have been harmonica influenced but were definetely Blues influenced. Like everything it evolves over time. I had the same opinion on beatboxing until I heard Son of Dave, but I'm happy to say I changed my mind...still don't like all of it but I'm a bit more open minded now to new stuff.
Oisin
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Kingley
518 posts
Nov 23, 2009
10:04 AM
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Kingley...you can't say all of English music of the 60's was drivel(well you can but you'd be wrong!!)...What about The Action, Them , Yardbirds...the list is too big to mention. It was the evolution of the Blues by English bands that gave us some of the best bands of the 60s and 70s.Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page all played in the Yardbirds at one time.
Well it's all down to personal opinion and taste.
There is not one single song that I have ever heard from the British scene of the 60's or 70's that is a patch on the American music of the same period to my ears.
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Tuckster
273 posts
Nov 23, 2009
10:06 AM
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I've always been a big Who fan,but I never thought of them as a blues band. To me,they were the first punk rock band.
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blogward
16 posts
Nov 23, 2009
10:10 AM
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I don't think Kingley has as wide a knowledge of British music of the sixties as his sweeping generalization might suggest. The USA also pumped out its fair share of nauseating dross over the twenty years in question.
As for Daltrey's technique - he manages to syncopate well, which many don't. But everybody at the time used harp, including the Beatles. Brian Jones, Paul Jones and Cyril Davies (who died in '64) were probably the most popular exponents. None of them would cause much excitement as harp players today.
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Kingley
519 posts
Nov 23, 2009
10:28 AM
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Blogward,
Well like I said in my previous post."There is not one single song that I have ever heard" Obviously I can't base it on material I haven't heard. However in 47 years I have heard a lot of music. I grew up with the sounds of the Sixties and Seventies, and dislike all of the British music that I have heard from that period. I am not and never have been a fan of British music in general.
I absolutely agree that the American music scene also pumped out some truly awful stuff.
It is of course only my personal opinion on music. Music is, has and always will be, a very personal subject for everybody. Peoples taste will always differ on it.
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