southbound_60
5 posts
Nov 23, 2009
7:15 PM
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So I'm thinking of picking up a Bassman 10 from E-Bay.I see them all the time for fairly cheap.I'm playing a through an early 80's fender Concert right now.Sounds good, but I would like a little more power to,well,...hear myself during practice!!Ow guitar player plays through a line six half stack,rooms small,sometimes I get drown out.Any one have any exp. with this Amp? Also,any mods it could use to make it better for harp playing?
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southbound_60
8 posts
Nov 24, 2009
10:03 AM
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Any one?
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MrVerylongusername
653 posts
Nov 24, 2009
10:28 AM
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A Fender Concert is a 60W valve amp. If you can't hear it in a rehearsal then your guitarist is playing way too loud! Tell him to turn down and don't accept any bullshit about tone. If he wants overdriven tone at low volumes he needs a smaller amp - end of story.
Volume is not cool.
I've run soundboards for many bands. The good ones knew about backline levels and the need to keep stage volume down. The bad ones were clueless and were almost impossible to deal with as I had no control over the FOH sound.
That's saying nothing about hearing loss. Protect your hearing - once it's gone it doesn't come back.
The Bassman 10 is not known as a good harp amp - too clean sounding.
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congaron
306 posts
Nov 24, 2009
10:40 AM
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My guitarists runs a 22 watt amp head with 12 inch red fang speaker. He uses an attenuator and attenuates it WAY down for practices and pretty far down for gigs, except outdoors. we had practice last night and i played through a valve junior (5 watts unmodified) and a single 12 inch jensen with no effects, no boost of any kind..straight tube tone. We had guitar/bass/electronic drum kit and me. No problem whatsoever being heard. The excess volume will also hurt you on getting asked back to play, especially if you guys are a blues band. Turn it down so everybody can hear everybody...sound guy here too.
Last Edited by on Nov 24, 2009 10:41 AM
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southbound_60
9 posts
Nov 24, 2009
6:21 PM
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Thanks fellas.Kinda new to the band thing(1st one)And playing amplified.Still trying to figure it all out!!
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jbone
208 posts
Nov 25, 2009
3:49 AM
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this is an age old phenomenon. i call it the creeping volume disease.
i don't know anything about a bassman 10 but i do have a great replica '59 bassman with 4 10's. wasn't real cheap but we had some windfall here a while back and when i saw this i decided to get it. this isa 45-50 watt behemoth but for small rooms i can unplug 2 of the 4 speakers and keep the volume low. for bigger rooms and louder situations it will keep up with 2 or 3 guitars and drums and bass.
but my small amp is more suited to small rooms and esp the duo i work in. it's a mid 60's silvertone 1482. single 12" speaker, runs about 12-15 watts. i cut the gain with a tube swap and swapped speakers when o bought it since the original speaker was not up to par any more. while it can sometimes keep up in a full band setting i'm more inclined to take the bassman to full band gigs and jams. there's no question that i will have both great tone and enough volume to get it out there.
a medium sized tube amp is a good idea if you want tone and volume. one of my previous amps was a peavey delta blues 210, which featured 2 10" speakers, plenty of knobs to adjust the volume and tone, and also a speaker out jack which i used with a 4x8 cabinet i have.
there are a lot of choices these days for small to medium maps for harp. check out harpgear amps. look at greg heumann's reworked kalamazoo II's. the epi valve junior and a couple of clones of that.
amp choice really depends on your wallet and what you're looking for in an amp. mic choice is a factor also.
keep us posted on what you decide to do.
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phogi
128 posts
Nov 25, 2009
4:23 AM
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I with you guys on the loudness. I've been playing at a local jam, I wear earplugs, big foam ones (under a hat to hide it, of course), and it is STILL too loud. I am strongly considering not going any more. I even went and got fitted for custom earplugs, hoping they would block out more sound. Only problem, I can't play harp with ear plugs in. So I take them out for my 15 minutes on stage.
I think next time I will wear my earplugs and a pair of ear muffs (the kind used for shooting). I honestly think the volume situation will never change, because they get weird about it if you ask to turn it down. What is even more crazy is that the the bar is tiny, its a shotgun bar with the opposing wall no more than 15 feet from the stage.
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Bluzdude46
288 posts
Nov 25, 2009
7:19 AM
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Q. How do you get a Guitarist to turn down?
A. Put Sheet Music in front of Him
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