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jonsparrow
1486 posts
Dec 25, 2009
12:44 PM
first part with effects. 2nd part straight into amp.

set up im useing is
epiphone valve jr
jenson speaker
bbe sonic maximizer
mxr carbon copy analog delay
lonewolf harp tone+
kinder anti feedback+
electrovoice 644 mic
recorded with sure sm57 mic into m-audio interface ran by protools
self customized marine band key of Bb

i feel that theres a bit too much bass or not enough mids. im still dialing in the sound.

Last Edited by on Dec 25, 2009 12:48 PM
tookatooka
921 posts
Dec 25, 2009
12:55 PM
Must admit to liking the second example more jon. Maybe me but I do prefer the cleaner sound.
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jonsparrow
1487 posts
Dec 25, 2009
1:02 PM
to me the 2nd one sounds too dry an brittle. but the first one sounds too muffled.
pharpo
30 posts
Dec 25, 2009
1:53 PM
Jon...try one with just the delay.....effects opened about 1/3

Paul
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GermanHarpist
824 posts
Dec 25, 2009
2:34 PM
I prefer the first sample.
IMO in both cases the chords sound very rough.
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MrVerylongusername
730 posts
Dec 25, 2009
5:13 PM
Too much delay in the first - too much delay adds to the muddiness. If you were playing with other musicians with those settings you'd be totally lost in the mix. Delay and reverb have the effect of pushing things 'further back' in a mix - not, I'm sure, what you're striving for.

Delay and reverb should be very subtle.

And you're right, there's no sparkle in the sound at all.

Reducing the amount of delay will mean more headroom before feedback, so you put back some of the sparkle that you are e.q.ing out to stop the squeals

If the picture is how you're micing the amp - it also explains a lot of the muddiness. Never dangle a mic like that to mic a cabinet, unless it is designed with the capsule at right angles to the body. That SM57 picks up the best sound from the tip, so use a micstand to point it at the speaker - not touching, about an inch away (this will reduce the bass accentuating proximity effect) Using a stand will also allow more accurate positioning of the mic, about 2/3 out from the cone is a good compromise on a small speaker.
jonsparrow
1490 posts
Dec 25, 2009
6:21 PM
mr.v it think your right about the delay. ill test it out tomorrow an set up the sm57 like you said an try again.


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