Someone commented that we save most of our analytical skills on contentious issues. Well, this one may be a little contentious too. What music do you hate, and why? Be specific.
I'll get us started with a little story. I had a friend who had been looking for a song for a very long time. It meant a lot to them. They finally found a copy and played it for me. I couldn't help laughing. It was (in my opinion at least) the worst song I had ever heard. It was cliche and obvious. But some people like it. I'm sure some of you probably hate some of my favorites too.
i HATE hardcore metal screamo bands. i can not stress how much i HATE them. i hate the guitars i hate the drums i hate the vocals most of all. i hate the people who listen to this music. i hate every thing about it. you have no idea. this is not music. this is crap that assholes drink beer too an get in fights an punch holes in there bedroom wall.
So I take it your not a Metalacolypse? I'm not a big fan of those sorts of vocals, but the music underneath isn't to far of from some of the stuff I listened to years ago.
I like a lot of kinds of rock, don't care one way or another about some other rock, there's some rock I dislike. But that stuff posted above? I'm with Jon.
no i dont like metalacolypse. an i just cant stand that type of music. every band sounds the same. drums are just constant dubble kick drum pedals, guitars are just palm muted chugging with a few harmonics squeels thrown in every now an then an vocals...well i dont even need to explain that. back in the day i used to listen to some hardcore metal but it was something with good guitar and drums an vocals you can actually understand. like something on the lines of soulfly. they were a good band. but i wouldnt listen to them now.
What music drives me crazy well: Traditional Irish music because its so repetitively, unendingly, samely and unutterably BORING They call their sessions 'open' but they all sit in a circle and the gate is closed
What I hate, metal, most new or new ish "R and B" Blues jam tracks that turn out to be rock. Classical music that is bad (lots is good) but that people like my parents listen to because music critics say its good, like listen to the countermelody interweaving in a complex polyphony with the harpsichord... ---------- "Blow as thou pleaseth"
Rap (not music) / hip hop (whatever the hell that is) / heavy metal (noise beyond comprehension). Maybe I am too old. Or perhaps I have a modicum of taste.
I love Irish fiddle tunes, great harp material. I will actually sit through a chinese opera. Teddy Bear is right up there with D-I-V-O-R-C-E, Pregnant Again and When we were down to Nothing, Nothing sure Looked Good on You. Yet, I don't dislike all country music, love bluegrass! I can't listen to most pop tunes. Especially hated bubble gum music.
I've got to go with "bubble gum" as well. More specifically, formulaic country "bubble gum". It seems to make a lot of money from a whole bunch of fans. But, from my ears it all sounds like it is intended to sound the same.
Ha! I LOVE that old Red Sovine tune. He even did a sequel to it where the little kid grows up and his dog dies in some sort of firey crash ans whatnot. Both songs make me laugh my ass off and sort of cry at the same time. :^) Personally, I don't care for new country. Or most anything that is played on commercial radio these days. Mostly I stream Pandora or listen to Sirius in my car.
I f---ing hate punk, rap, hiphop and pop-rock etc. I enjoy Jazz, blues, progressive rock/metal, avante garde/experimental bands - lots of Mike Patton stuff. Most radio music is the downfall of society.
I hate new country-warmed over Skynrd with more twang in the vocals. Anything that's phony. That Kid Rock song that rips off Warren Zevon's "Werewolves of London" drives me nuts.
Jonsparrow- Yeah, I like to be able to understand what they are saying. I also tended to like the higher guitar solos over grinding bass stuff. Unfortunately, I'm old enough so I have some truly horrible hair metal tapes lying around. It's kind of like what emo did to grunge.
Zhin- Wow. Your right, that's pretty nasally. I actually heard a recording of one of the last castratos singing that sounded something like that.
Harmonicanik- Lol. I love traditional Irish music!
Jfllr1- I actually love blues that turns into rock. I love old Aerosmith and Southern-Rock.
Bb- I don't listen to much country, although I like some rock covers I've heard of Lucinda Williams and I love Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt. Everybody I know who has heard Teddy Bear has strong feelings one way or the other!
Manky- What's djm?
I actually wrote some lyrics about bubble gum lyrics (Britney Spears variety)
"I find you trite and dumb You smack of bubble gum And your flavors wearing thin."
Of course, I probably created a perfect example of that sort of angry grunge/emo that makes fun of other forms of music just to define themselves, which I also hate. I never did set it to music.
Without a doubt for me it's rap. And I feel it's being generous to call it music. There are many kinds of music (country, jazz, classical), that I don't really care for..but I still appreciate what the musicians are doing.
The only thing I think about when I hear rap is how much I want to pick up a sledgehammer and bash the shit out of whatever that noise is coming out of.
The question was what MUSIC makes you crazy, not much music in rap. I once played simple jews harp while a kid rapped, sounded fine to him. BYW: Don't care for much ethnic or "new world" music.
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Not too much into classifying music but to me the essentials are: beat, rhythm, harmony and a melody I can hum. Got's to have at least 3 out of the 4 elements. Soooo I guess I pretty much don't care much for rap, hip-hop and metal. Although there is one rap/hip-hop type that tickles me and we sometimes play a few bars for giggles. "Who Let The Dog's Out, wuf, wuf, wuf."
I notice that a lot of you mention rap/hip-hop as a genre that you can't stand. I agree that, to my ears, a lot of rap is uninspired or not particularly musical, but I think that there's always something a bit more valid when you skirt roud there periphery a little.
exhibit A is from Spearhead, quite old (early 90s) now, but funky and soulful with a great harp loop - maybe a mix of diatonic and chromatic. the song's maybe a little too right-on and sanctimonius, though.
I'd be curious to hear if professed rap-haters object to this as well
Personally, I hate music that sounds obviously like it was made *just to make money*, catering to what the corporate recording industrie's statistics calculate will sell lots of records with NO regard to artistry of any kind. That is not to say that if a song/singer/band is popular I automatically hate them. Quite the contrary sometimes. My cases in point will be 1)Taylor Swift (and ALL teeny-bopper shit) 2)Back Street Boys (but not all R&B in general) 3)Almost all "Wankster Rap" (but not hip hop in general) 4)Nickelback (but not all Rock) 5)Brittany Spears (but not all chick singers) 6)Most all pop "country music" (but not all country music) 7)James Taylor (but not all folk music)
The above definition does NOT include any music that is actually done with at least a little bit of soul and artistry. I may not like it, but I won't HATE it.
Gamblershand, OK - I tried. Got 50 seconds into it and got out. I want to hear someone talk, I will go to a movie. The backing tracks do little to make me appreciate the piece. My kid used to play rap in the garage while he was working on his car. He got a new sound system in and put in a rap CD. I went outside and asked if he wanted to test his system with real music. I gave him a David Sanborn CD with the song "Slam" on it with the condition if he liked it he would only play rap when he was not near my ears. He kept the CD. To me, it is just not music. Further, to me it is not entertainment of any kind. That's me. If the message is positive, that is refreshing but not music. If the message is negative, it is shit and still not music. I do not get what people see in it, but that's me. I have often turned off a decent movie because there is excessive rap in the sound track. I am also 62 years old. Maybe its an age thing, but thanks for trying.
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Actually for what it's worth, aside from the harmonica loop, that all sounds like a live band rather than studio-created backing tracks. Certainly they play this stuff live.
Gamblershand, If the guy had never opened his mouth, it would be something I could listen to. If he had sung, it might have been OK, but not my style. If you're going to open your mouth to music, SING!!
You know that Moody Blues song, "Nights in White Satin?" It's an OK song, but I could never stand the part where he starts reciting poetry.
I am a HUGE, HEAD-OVER-HEELS Doors fan, but I don't like the American Prayer album even though it does contain good music. (For those that don't know, the three remaining Doors took the late Jim Morrison's recorded poetry sessions and put it to their music for the America Prayer album.)
Gene, you make a great point about Knights in White Satin. I hate that part. And Barry White .. the guy could sing but the narrative he put into some of his stuff was just pure corny crap.
Breathe deep the gathering gloom, Watch lights fade from every room. Bedsitter people look back and lament, Another day's useless energy spent. Impassioned lovers wrestle as one, Lonely man cries for love and has none. New mother picks up and suckles her son, Senior citizens wish they were young. Cold hearted orb that rules the night, Removes the colours from our sight. Red is grey and yellow white. But we decide which is right. And which is an illusion???.
I always liked it. At least the background music was music, not somebody playing repetitive random notes on a toy keyboard. (rap)
Holiday specific music. Not only does it make little to no sense any other time of the year but when it is the appropriate time of the year you're attacked with it from every angle, lol.
---------- ~Ryan
"I play the harmonica. The only way I can play is if I get my car going really fast, and stick it out the window." - Stephen Wright
Pennsylvania - H.A.R.P. (Harmonica Association 'Round Philly)
Ryan- Hell Yeah! Well, most of it anyway. One of the things I think makes a great song is that it stands up without needing a prop. I usually prefer a song that says a couple deep things and then gets out of your way and lets you come to your own conclusions. I like a song that I can get more out of with repeated listening, both in lyrics and the music. Of course, I maybe some time of year that wasn't just after Christmas I might hate Christmas music less.
As for rap, I don't mind songs that have a little rapping in them, but when that's all the vocal is going to do, not so much. A lot of rap tends to very specific. I also, with maybe the exception of Big Country (for some strange inexplicable reason), hate songs that mention the band name in the song. A lot of rap is about the musician who happens to be singing it, and if you aren't into celebrity it's not very interesting. There are couple kinds of rap that aren't all rap. Sometimes there is a second vocalist who alternates verses with the lead singer. If the rap is delivered well it can add some energy to the song. Then there are some songs where the singer will deliver the start of the line with a rap sort of staccato with out any note inflection and then switch over at the very end of the line. Outkast's 'Hey Ya' does this. I can't get it to embed, so here is a cover that doesn't rap it at all by a band (guy?) named Obediah Parker.
I don't like the whole pop experience: rap/hip-hop/buble-gum/r&b/rave/techno etc.
Also, while I love all the old hymns, spirituals and camp-meeting songs, I can't stand the modern praise & worship music. It's extremely repetitious and doesn't rhyme. Considering that most christian musicians seem to have a chip on their shoulder about not being taken as seriously as their secular counterparts, you would think they would put more effort into song writing.
have to say,i can't sing.when i say i can't sing,what i mean is,you wouldn't want to listen to it.fact. however,when i speak,you might think i am a bit of a love god.barry white and all that. sometimes i hear stuff that i'm supposed to like,and i just think it's $hit. i listened to the butterfield blues band and for me,it falls into the $hit catagory. if that was blues,i wouldn't be bothered with it. i can't tell you the amount of times i've been forced to listen to something by my grand kids,and felt almost suicidal with my teeth gnashing at the mediocraty of it.the rap i've heard does that to me. i'll just shut up now.
What else drives me crazy is any music, any music at all (in a movie)that is so loud that you can't hear what the heck the actors are saying....ESPECIALLY when the dialogue is whispered throughout the dang movie!
I hate manufactured 'music' ie rap, hip hop, pop, heavy metal, punk. Negative noise that has lyrics that are indiscernable due to the doof doof coming from a walking wet dream of a bass guitarist who has only been playing a week & the drummer that can only add further noise & all beefed up through a sound system that distorts it beyong recognition.
That said I love Country but there is a lot of country stuff I dont like. Similarly Blues I really love some but a lot I cannot stand ie bland & repetitative. I like the slower style blues but not like Charlie Musselwhite stuff which I find dead boring!
Most music I find is crap ie 90% of what is on the radio, sometimes even 90% of what many good singers /musicians produce. ie most don't ever pass the test of time. But, thankfully there is some great stuff out there from many genres that will linger on and be added to the songbook of classics.
Then of course its a matter of taste. I think with maturity comes( not always) a greater appreciation of the skill of the musicians and writers. Also life is far too short to be bothered with listening to something that you don't like. Music is very very personal and it's really great but rare when you find others who like exactly what you like.
Aussiesucker: "lyrics that are indiscernable due to the doof doof coming from a walking wet dream of a bass guitarist"
Now that's funny!!!!
My particular rap nightmare is that in the urban environment that I live in (not sure if this happens in rural areas), my windows will rattle in sync with the bass (though the car blasting this noise is so far away that the base can't actually be heard yet) for about three to five minutes. Then about a minute or two of just the bass sound in sync with the rattling, then about 15-25 seconds of rythmic screaming which slowly fades away. I can only conclude a vehicle of some kind with speakers twice as valuable as the vehicle itself, making a relatively brief (thank god) visit to my neighborhood.
And I was raised on loud rock and roll. But this is ridiculous.
Just one more reason that when I think rap, I think, where's a good sledgehammer when you need one.
I find good songs and artists in every genre of music, even in Techno/R&B/Radio-pop music, etc. Hence, there are things that drive me crazy in every genre too.
I was a lot more radical when I was 16, when I used to listen to hard-rock and Metal and (almost) nothing else. Now I try to be tolerant and if I don't like something, well... I just not listen to it and leave it for those who like.
By the way, Jonsparrow : all people who, like myself, listen to extreme metal are not alcoolic fighting assholes. In fact, the great majority of them (us) are cool guys, and you can find assholes listening to every kind of music, even reggae and (yes !), even blues...
Gloth- That's all fine and good until you accidentally get swept up in a mosh pit! (Of course, that's still not nearly as dangerous as being a fan at a soccer game.)
I still hate marching band music. I was in our highschool jazz band and stage band (27 years ago), so i had to play in the marching band. I have never heard a marching band in tune...EVER! oh...don't like rap either ;-) i do appreciate all types of music for the talent behind it, but thats just the ones i choose not to listen to
harmonicanick- I had someone living in my dorm who kept playing 'Son of a Preacher Man' over and over. I had a louder stereo, so ultimately I won, but I still don't like that song.
My wife bought me a Jerry Murad and the Harmonicats album, along with a few other harp-related CDs, when I was just getting started last year. I finally popped it into the CD player in our rental car when we were on vacation in August. I swear it made me break out in a cold sweat. I didn't want to say anything, because my wife was sitting right there next to me, but I thought I was going to die.
