Wow i missed a good 1 i think i just got out of the hospital sounds like someones wanting to put someone in.I would asked what happened but,i think i got the picture maybe.
Buddha, I don't know if I've asked and forgotten the answer, or if I've never bothered to ask:
I've heard of a technique to defend against an attacking dog, and I'm wondering if it would really work:
If a dog is charging, crouch low with your forearm extended horizontally, similar to a college/olympic wrestling stance (preferably with your jacket or something wrapped around your arm.). Allow the dog to to grab your forearm, then pin him to the ground (or break his neck) with your other forearm across the back of his neck.
(I surely would hate to try this against an American Pit Bull Terrior.)
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it depends on the dog, his size, his strength and his will to bite you. 99% of the dog you encounter on the street are crazy pets. IF they bite, it's usually because you are running away and they NIP you low in the legs.
Let's say you're a bad guy or accused of being a bad guy and the cops decide to send a real dog on you. You really don't have much of a chance. I'm not saying the dog will kill you but you will get bit and the cops will be there right away.
The other scenario with getting bit be a trained dog is a guy like me who has such an animal. If I send my dog on you, I'm only going to be a few feet away and would be waiting to clobber you with a rock or the ASP that I carry in my truck.
Most dogs these days will be trained to ignore your forearm. That's old school german style training. Almost all of the working dogs are trained KNPV style where the focus is on Speed and violence. Look at how fast this dog enters. The dog missed because the decoy didn't want to get hit by that dog. You can try moving a little when the dog is in the air but as you can see, the dog will still come after you even if it is hurt.
Look at the speed and power this dog has. The guy in the suit is experienced at catching a dog but still falls down, imagine if that dog hit a scared person with no experience in working with aggressive dogs, in addition the dog will have his teeth sunk far into your arm pit and shoulder. You WILL be on the ground and the dog will continue to hold his bite and continue to tear you flesh until you are dead or he's called off.
You want to survive? carry a knife. I always have a knife in my pocket. IF you can withstand the pain and happen to avoid going into shock and you don't have a knife, then try to gouge out an eyeball.
This falling on a dog to break his neck is really a bunch of BS and probably started by a person who's never seen a real dog attack a human. ---------- "The privilege of a lifetime is being who you are." - Joseph Campbell
i had alot of pits in my younger days but the meanest attack dog we had was my brothers female rot,she was put in a room every time some one came over after a while she got to where if she wasnt put up when some one came over she would go crazy on a person in the room besides family,if they moved very quick i loved that rot
Thanks for the response, Chris. I do realize that trying to defend against a trained dog, whether successfully or not would be pointless. My thoughts lean toward a loose, aggressive dog.
I thought the technique I described would work, because the dog's instinct is to grab the closest part of his prey/victom (whatever). I'm not sure what you mean by "falling on the dog." What I'm talking about is pressing your bitten arm firmly into the dog's jaws and exerting pressure on the back of his neck with your other forearm, and then either hold the dog down until the owner regains control of his dog or apply enough pressure to cause sufficient enough pain that the dog obviously submits. Or, if necessary, take it to the next level....(I don't know if I could do that to a dog. I'd be in bad shape.)
One dog: Defense possible (?) Two or more dogs: They'd better be small.
Gene- That reminds me of a story I heard once about two guys who were out in the woods hiking one day. They reached the rim of a valley, and looked down, only to see a bear wandering around by the brook that ran through it. The first man started to panic. "Oh my God! It's a bear. We are going to die."
The second man licked his finger and held it up in the air and got a thoughtful look on his face. "We're upwind and bears don't have good eyesight. As long as we are quiet we'll be fine."
Just then, the wind changed direction. The first man's panic got worse. The second man was still calm. He sat down, took his backpack off and calmly took off his boots and put on a pair of running shoes from his backpack. "Are you crazy!" The first man screamed, "You can't outrun a bear!"
"I don't have to out run a bear," he replied, "I only have to out run you."
sorry, I got distracted, I meant to answer that question. If the dog is just a neighborhood dog that is loose, just yell at it and act threatening as you move towards towards it. 9/10 the dog will run away.
In short, if a dog is growling at you and the hackles are up then that's a dog that doesn't want to fight or bite. Its the dogs that stare at you with tail high in the air that you should worry about as it's not afraid of you and my bite. In that case yell NO GO HOME but don't move so you don't activate his prey drive.
If he comes at you. Do you best to kick him as hard as you can where ever you can. That doesn't isn't going to be trained to be in pain and keep fighting. ---------- "The privilege of a lifetime is being who you are." - Joseph Campbell
toddlgreene:Whats your problem hot shot. I choose not to post this site and have the utmost respect for the site owner.Even when I don't post on it the cowardly attacks and abuse to me keep coming. Why ? I know why but quite frankly it is pointless. Coward that I am must certainly not. I don't hide behind a pc screen either. I contributed quite a lot to this site until folk started abusing my posts so I don't need that, Ive, got better things to do. Sure Ive influence in the music scene in Uk bookings etc, but frankly I can't deal with idiots.
Some folk on here are good guys and you get a lot of help and advice then there is a core element that are simply for want of a better word are ignorant.
When folk continue to attack me that starts to make my blood boil.
Your comments are creating trouble for sure. I am no coward have fought in several conflicts as a young man and I don't hide behind a pc. Let me know if you would like to contact me direct.
Sop, you made some comments on here in the past that might be considered by many as incendiary-the key word here being PAST. In hindsight, I am wrong for stirring it up and mentioning your handle, or anyone elses', as that makes me no better. For that, I apologize, and I've deleted those inflammatory posts of mine. I'm no coward, either, but I'm also not looking for trouble. I think we're both a little misunderstood. I'm also not ignorant, and such comments as that, or any others that are condescending, need to be left off this forum. Let's start with a clean slate. Let's talk harp. I won't fuel any fires, and I sincerely apologize if anything I say comes off that way. I would react similarly if singled out, so I don't blame you for that. Now, let's let this thread die. ---------- ~Todd L. Greene crescentcityharmonicaclub@gmail.com
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Thanks for clearing that up todd. sopwith I hope you can live with that answer...
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