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walterharp
176 posts
Jan 11, 2010
9:51 AM
Hey all, a recent comment by BBQ on Cotton having slow vibrato got me thinking, isn't the best to control the speed to match the song? I guess you could double the rate and still do that. Hammond B-12 sounds great though and the speed is not controlled really.

One of the best examples (not harp) in my mind is the version of I Fall to Pieces by Trisha Yearwood and Aaron Neville where they match vibrato

scrybe314
44 posts
Jan 11, 2010
9:57 AM
Hmm...it depends, I guess, on what kind of feel you're trying to work. I know a lot of players will hike up their vibrato to where they're laying down triplets over the beat. Gives the impression of the song moving faster than it is, at least to my ears.
barbequebob
317 posts
Jan 11, 2010
11:15 AM
There's no real solid rule for that at all. If you hit a vibrato hard at any speed, it may or may not fit properly within context, so that is gonna be a judgement call. However, a faster vibrato for most people is usually easier to play than a slower one, and to slow it down to the speed of a Cotton, Howlin' Wolf, or Junior Wells, it takes TONS of woodshedding to get the kind of control necessary to pull it off.
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stikhon
9 posts
Jan 12, 2010
12:38 AM
walterharp,
it's interesting in your example Aaron uses triplets and Trisha does 16-ths for their vibratos
GermanHarpist
940 posts
Jan 12, 2010
2:56 AM
If it's triplets or 16th, don't we always adapt to the speed of the song? If this is not the case could someone post an example?

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mickil
815 posts
Jan 12, 2010
4:42 AM
I tend to go along with what GH just said.

I know that there's no hard and fast rule. Nevertheless, playing at a speed that goes against the tempo is an extremely hard thing to do.

When I was an undergraduate, I performed the piece embedded below, which ain't the blues, by the way. In it, both pianos play the same notes, but one of them has to periodically speed up until it is one note ahead of the other. It is, without a doubt, the most hideously difficult thing, musically speaking, that I've ever done.

I, too, would like to see an example; not of a poly-rhythm, they are common enough; but rather, two tempi played simultaneously in the same piece.


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Last Edited by on Jan 12, 2010 4:44 AM
walterharp
179 posts
Jan 12, 2010
9:31 AM
Mickil.. are there cicada's where you live...the piano piece reminds me of how they come into sync... come to think about it, cicada's are an amazing example of what happens when multiple sound sources synchronize vibrato


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