Greg Heumann
224 posts
Jan 17, 2010
10:20 PM
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This is aimed at Jonsparrow and anyone else who suffers from canker sores. This is public service announcement. (I started it as a new thread because the thread in which Jon mentioned he had them was more about developing new technique and I didn't want to hijack that.)
If you have or get canker sores - which are NOT the same as "cold sores" - you have my sympathy. They are intensely painful and a strategically located one can make playing harp practically impossible.
Get thee hence, at all speed, to the nearest Safeway or Pharmacy and get yourself some Lysine. This is an over the counter amino acid in tablet form - you'll find it in the vitamin section. I used to suffer from canker sores (here's another tip - eating walnuts is practically guaranteed to bring them on.)
If you already have the sore or sores, Lysine will help them heal faster and reduce or stop any spreading. But one you learn how MAGICAL this stuff is, you'll just learn to take it anytime you think you're at risk, like when you feel that first tingle, or when you bite your lip, or when you just forgot about the walnut thing.
I won't say there are no risks or side effects because I'm not a pharmacology expert, but I certainly don't notice any. This a natural compound already present in many foods we eat and I believe it is a very safe, easy solution. Since I started using it (a few years ago) I have had ZERO canker sores. I even keep a bottle in the glove box. The faster you take some after feeling a possible sore coming up, the better. I speak from first hand experience. If you google it you'll find out why it works and that I'm not making it up.
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/Greg
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/Greg
BlowsMeAway Productions
BlueState - my band
Bluestate on iTunes
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jonsparrow
1735 posts
Jan 17, 2010
10:29 PM
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good shit imma get some tomorrow. this sore is getting bigger an bigger. i have this stuff that kinda numbs it pretty good but i dont think is healing it. infact i think its making it worse.
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nacoran
810 posts
Jan 17, 2010
11:09 PM
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I bit my cheek REALLY badly once. My doctor suggested pineapple, or more specifically, pineapple juice, to help heal any sore in the mouth or that general area. I keep a can handy. It really seems to work. I haven't done a double-blind study or anything, but I swear by it!
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jonsparrow
1739 posts
Jan 17, 2010
11:14 PM
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the worst is when you bite your cheek an you can feel/hear it crunch between your teeth. then its all messed up an you keep biteing it cause its swollen an sticking out now.
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Stickman
97 posts
Jan 18, 2010
12:22 PM
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"My doctor suggested pineapple (juice)"
oooooooooowwwwwwwwwww!
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The Art Teacher Formally Known As scstrickland
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Greg Heumann
225 posts
Jan 18, 2010
2:12 PM
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Yeah, I tried all kinds of numbing products, anbesol gel, etc - they sting like hell when you put them on, give limited relief, and seem to irritate the canker sore and make it worse. Lysine is proven.
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/Greg
BlowsMeAway Productions
BlueState - my band
Bluestate on iTunes
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toddlgreene
518 posts
Jan 18, 2010
2:21 PM
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@ Greg ...unless Jon's really a dinosaur, then he'll die-but not from canker sores.
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Todd L. Greene, V.P.
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jonsparrow
1746 posts
Jan 18, 2010
3:25 PM
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im not a dinosaur. i picked up some lysine ointment an some pills to eat before an after i eat a meal. it turns out i got my canker soar cause i have a vitamin deficiency cause im a vegetarian.
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Kingley
636 posts
Jan 18, 2010
3:29 PM
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Thanks for the Lysine tip Greg. That will come in handy.
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jonsparrow
1748 posts
Jan 18, 2010
3:33 PM
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"they sting like hell when you put them on"
hell ya they do.
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Greg Heumann
228 posts
Jan 18, 2010
4:55 PM
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Lysine ointment? Haven't heard of that. Can you tell me the specific brand and product name? Might really help speed the cure. I have only used the pills - and they certainly work well.
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/Greg
BlowsMeAway Productions
BlueState - my band
Bluestate on iTunes
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jonsparrow
1754 posts
Jan 18, 2010
5:02 PM
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http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2133725&CAWELAID=293850983
i got it from the GNC store not the website. just sayin they they carry it in store.
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Last Edited by on Jan 18, 2010 5:04 PM
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Shredder
109 posts
Jan 18, 2010
5:23 PM
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Cold sores, fever blisters, canker sores, they are all a curse from the devil him self.
My dad my sister and my self get these what ever you care to call them. My sister does the lysine with fair results. I have had good luck with "Abrevia" over the counter ointment if I catch it when the tingle 1st starts.My Dad started using it also. Before he just used Blistex and suffered thru it.
Iv'e had to play with them and a bloody harp an't no fun,I had to keep a tissue handy.
I seem to get them when under a lot of stress or when I get dehydrated. I 1st thought to much sun was the culpret but I dissproved that this summer.
To the afflicted, I feel your pain. I wish a miricle drug would be invented that would send them all back to hell where they came from.
"Bleedin lip's Mike"
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Ryan
75 posts
Jan 18, 2010
5:37 PM
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"And without it, the dinosaurs slip into a coma and die. The lysine contingency from jurassic park..so it's good stuff. "
Well if you saw Jurassic Park 2 or 3 you'd see how well that worked. The dinosaurs that were herbavores survived by eating indigenous plants high in lysine (soy if I remember correctly). And the carnivores survived by eating the herbavores (they were high in lysine from eating all the plants). In the words of Dr. Ian Malcolm/Jeff Goldblum "Nature finds a way."
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nacoran
819 posts
Jan 18, 2010
5:43 PM
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Ryan- Jurassic Park 2 and 3 had more to do with the fact that the movie execs wanted a sequel than any logical plot point.
Strick- Actually, pineapple feels pretty good on it. It's not real citrus-y so it doesn't hurt at all. Of course, you have to remember to peel it first.
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jonsparrow
1755 posts
Jan 18, 2010
5:49 PM
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"you have to remember to peel it first."
do'h!
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jonsparrow
1802 posts
Jan 20, 2010
6:52 PM
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i think this stuff is working. thanks allot for the suggestion.
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LeonStagg
102 posts
Jan 20, 2010
7:08 PM
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I started getting a couple of those mouth ulcers under my tounge right about the time jon first posted on this topic. Got some 1,000mg L-Lysine tablets. Those sores never got bad. They are there, but they haven't caused the usual severe pain.
Thanks for the tip, that stuff works!
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jonsparrow
1806 posts
Jan 20, 2010
7:10 PM
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mine are 500mg. sense i started takin them the sore has been slowly going away. before that it just kept gettin bigger an bigger an hurt alot. it dont really hurt much now either. only if i really test it. i also stopped playing too. im going crazy.
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Last Edited by on Jan 20, 2010 7:11 PM
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sgsax
20 posts
Jan 20, 2010
8:09 PM
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I'm a lifelong sufferer, myself. Took Lysine a long time ago, but it didn't seem to help me that much so I gave up on it. Lately, I've been taking Omeprizole (Prilosec) to combat reflux, which when it gets too bad gives me big sores in the back of my throat and tonsils. OK, getting to be TMI, there, sorry.
The other thing that I've found helpful lately is to do a mouth rinse with equal parts hydrogen peroxide and water, at least twice a day. If I do this right when the sore(s) start(s), it keeps them from getting too big.
For instant pain relief, I like Kanka (made by Blistex). It seems to coat the sore and protect it, at least long enough to get a meal down, and a bit longer.
Seth
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Greg Heumann
230 posts
Jan 20, 2010
8:16 PM
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Yeah, I've had 500 and 1000 mg - I've taken 2 1000's a day with no worries. Leon and Jon - if you ever even SUSPECT you're getting another sore - take one immediately. Then take another 8 hours later. If the symptoms go away, (and for me they do) you're done.
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/Greg
BlowsMeAway Productions
BlueState - my band
Bluestate on iTunes
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jaymcc28
215 posts
Jan 21, 2010
6:43 AM
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We had this discussion about a year ago, didn't we Greg? I suffer from MAJOR canker sores. I used to get them so bad I couldn't talk or eat, I mean a mouth full at a time.
Two things have helped me out. First, I use a tooth paste from Rembrandt that is specific for canker sore sufferers. This has brought my 'attacks' way down as well as the severity of them.
When I do feel a canker sore coming on I use a prescription rinse called chlorohexidrine gluconate. I get the script from an oral surgeon. This stuff is MAGIC for me. As soon as I feel that twinge I rinse, twice a day. Sometimes it prevents them from coming on at all and if they do they are short lived (a day) and minor.
Good luck, Brother Jon.
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"Take out your false teeth, momma, I want to suck on your gums."-P. Wolf
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