Bluzdude46
380 posts
Jan 18, 2010
6:27 AM
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Ok My small extra bedroom has turned into my music studio. I have a roommate that works midnight shift and sleeps in the evening. I have my sister living below me that likes to sleep mornings. I need to insulate this room as much as possible so I can practice more even during times those around me need quiet. Cost saving measures need to apply so cheap sources of materials appreciated!!
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Bluzdude46
381 posts
Jan 18, 2010
6:37 AM
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Har Har!! :o>
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Kingley
621 posts
Jan 18, 2010
6:38 AM
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The old method used to be egg boxes fixed on the walls to deaden the sound. You can buy foam now that does the same job. Maybe expensive though.
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toddlgreene
507 posts
Jan 18, 2010
6:43 AM
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If it's the floor, since your sis is downstairs, get the thickest carpet padding you can find, and carpet. Already have this? Put rugs inder your amplifiers/speakers. Also, there are commercially-available speaker stands that dampen the sound from underneath speakers. Plus, find a commercial rubber dealer, and get some medium-to hard durometer neoprene, like 1/2 thick, to put under the speakers/amplifiers. Scraps will work fine.
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Last Edited by on Jan 18, 2010 6:43 AM
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Bluzdude46
382 posts
Jan 18, 2010
6:48 AM
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For the floor I'm thinking putting an area rug over the carpet with maybe a pad underneath. That plus bevelled foam squares on the wall to "suck" up the sound as much as possible
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Kingley
622 posts
Jan 18, 2010
6:49 AM
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Another thing to bear in mind is that it tends to be bass frequencies that cause most noise pollution problems. If you cut back the bass that can improve it somewhat.
If it's the volume of an amp that's causing the problem than consider something like a 7-100 Pignose. They can be played at a very moderate volume and have great tone.
Another idea is to play acoustically then use the studio effects to process the sound.
Maybe invest in an amp that has a headphone socket.
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waltertore
125 posts
Jan 18, 2010
7:00 AM
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tell us specifically how loud you will be playing. The main problem with isulating a room is the wood framing of the house will conduct sound. Wood is a great sound conductor and depending on how loud you play, it may or may not ever get quiet enough to not disturb others in the house. I have built a recording studio in my basement and I can attest on how good wood conducts sound. Walter
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Bluzdude46
383 posts
Jan 18, 2010
7:01 AM
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I can practice without an amp, but I also play guitar (acoustic) and I have the volume of Jam tracks. I already know my amps and their sound but the stereo playing Jam tracks and other songs I need to work on need to be a certain volume so I can hear them as I play harp. I tend to be able to get the most done between 4am and 6 am so the house and surrounding sounds are very quiet so I'm trying to keep all sound within that room
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waltertore
126 posts
Jan 18, 2010
7:12 AM
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I am not sure what the volume of jamtracks means. Is it louder than a normal conversation level? Is as loud as a shout? Like said earlier, the bass sounds are the hardest to insulate. If you are wall to wall- your roomate is in the adjoining room, it will be near impossible to make it so no sound will be heard. To truly get a soundproof room, you would have to build a room within your room, and use lots of expensive soundproofing stuff like quiet rock (a soundproof sheetrock). I don't mean to sound negative, but I have been through all this and you can end up putting alot of time and money into it and be very disapointed with the results. Like said earlier- lots of rugs, isulate the door, walls, etc, with what is laying around the house and see how it does. Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
my music
my videos
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Bluzdude46
385 posts
Jan 18, 2010
8:47 AM
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I know it won't be free, Walter? Jamtracks are plyed thru my computer into stereo so think fairly good volume stereo. I'm trying to deaden sound not eliminate so I think Rug with a 1/4" carpet pad and foam tiles will be the trick, past that they'll have to deal with sound, it IS who I am after all
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jonsparrow
1743 posts
Jan 18, 2010
9:33 AM
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studio foam is the best stuff you can get but its not cheap. it also helps allot with acoustics. thats what its ment for. the cheapest thing you can do it cardboard egg carton shells like he said, or my personal favorite the big blue moveing pads that look like blankets. there used when moveing stuff in 18 wheelers an what not. there very heavy material an work wonders.
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toddlgreene
511 posts
Jan 18, 2010
9:43 AM
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as john said, those moving blankets rock(quilted ones are best) for the walls... I used to practice in a basement that had those hung up everywhere-worked wonders. Uhaul sells them, but I'm sure you can find them elsewhere cheaper.
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toddlgreene
512 posts
Jan 18, 2010
9:46 AM
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Bingo!
http://cgi.ebay.com/6-New-Furniture-Moving-Blanket-Pads-Warehouse-Storage-9_W0QQitemZ110480009260QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b91f282c
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jonsparrow
1744 posts
Jan 18, 2010
10:07 AM
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yep! those are the ones toddlegreene.
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toddlgreene
515 posts
Jan 18, 2010
10:13 AM
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that's a good price for enough blankets to cover an average room.
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Todd L. Greene, V.P.
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Bluzdude46
386 posts
Jan 18, 2010
10:45 AM
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Well they don't want to wear earplugs when sleeping and headphones while I play doesn't work real well. blankets may be hard to hang on my walls so I think the foam squares and extra carpet is going to have to do. Sister can disown me and roomate can move elsewhere if it don't suit em
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LittleJoeSamson
214 posts
Jan 18, 2010
11:00 AM
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Are you playing for practice, or what? That's one of the drawbacks of playing harp versus something like guitar or piano, where the player can wear the headphones and not be heard by others.
Besides the obvious sound dampening suggestions, take a small amp and place it in a box on its side and then turn it towards you.
Side sounds from a harp are unavoidable, and wearing a bag over your head is not advisable.
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Bluzdude46
388 posts
Jan 18, 2010
11:49 AM
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Ok I've got it now, I'll play with headphones on and a moving blanket over my head I'll stick my amp in a box and point it at me, I'll put several layers of rugs on the floor and smear my walls 1/4 thick with peanut butter- smooth not crunchy- then put acoustic tiles over top that. I'll buy a silencer and shoot the roommate so no worries there and I'll slip into my sisters part of the house every morning and jam earplugs in her ears. I think that covers it, now I can practice
Last Edited by on Jan 18, 2010 11:49 AM
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oldwailer
1021 posts
Jan 18, 2010
12:48 PM
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If you suspend the packing quilts from curtain rods a couple of inches from the wall you could create a dead air space that would stop a lot of sound--then put that foam egg-crate stuff they sell for mattress liners on the ceiling.
Just an idea--if I had a room in the house I would do it that way.
Since I don't have a room in the house--I just built a little prefab shed in my backyard and put my stuff out there--lined it with styrofoam to hold the heat in--now I just blow the roof off and never a complaint. . .
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CJames
134 posts
Jan 18, 2010
6:55 PM
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Insulation aside, Walter, I just watched your bushman contest entry video...incredible! that's a fantastic tone your gettin outta that harp.
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RyanMortos
561 posts
Jan 18, 2010
7:39 PM
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Oh my, remind me not to complain about your volume bluzdude, lol. I don't think you need insulation your playing can tame the savage beast! Plus think about the peanut butter we'll have leftover :P
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jonsparrow
1760 posts
Jan 18, 2010
8:42 PM
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"Once soundproofed a cellar by making cavity wall from railway sleepers and pouring sand in between the two walls, it is expensive though, making a room within a room whatever materials you use."
thats a good idea. is that where you kill your victims?
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waltertore
135 posts
Jan 19, 2010
5:33 AM
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"Insulation aside, Walter, I just watched your bushman contest entry video...incredible! that's a fantastic tone your gettin outta that harp."
thanks so much CJames! I have been working hard on my recording skills and that video is a year old. It is a challenge to eq the vocals and harp on the same mic. They kind of conflict each other from a recording standpoint. Walter
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walter tore's spontobeat - a real one man band and over 1 million spontaneously created songs and growing. I record about 300 full length cds a year.
my music
my videos
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