Butterfield fan
29 posts
May 13, 2019
1:31 AM
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Hi - I have tried to find a lead that allows me to use both channels on the Bassman 59 LTD but can't seem to find it.
So what I am looking for is the ability to plug in my mic and bridge both the channels - any recommendations?
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barbequebob
3579 posts
May 13, 2019
9:42 AM
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Personally, I tried it and HATED IT on my real Bassman. What you should know that's true on both the reissue Bassmens, the real deal ones and the very best Bassman clone amps, which are in this order, the Clark Piedmont and the Victoria 45410 is that the two volume controls interact with each other.
Frist, plug into the 1st input of the channel you wish to plug into (I always plug into the #1 input in the normal channel) and set the volume knob where you want it, usually close to the brink of feedback and then turn the volume control on the channel that you're NOT plugged into on 6. This ups the gain plus adds more bottom end and lower midrange (form e, since I'm plugged into the normal channel, then it's the bright channel volume control I do this to). If you put it past 6, you will have some volume loss.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
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Littoral
1678 posts
May 13, 2019
12:20 PM
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Wait, BBQ Bob, you have a real Bassman?
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Butterfield fan
30 posts
May 14, 2019
6:36 AM
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Thanks Bob. Having watched the Bassman chronicles on blues harmonicia.com. The amp expert says on the real Bassman they are already bridged together internally, it's only on the LTD and reissue's where they are separate and the demonstrate using a lead the difference in the sound. What I need to know is where can I get that lead and what type of lead is it?
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SuperBee
5960 posts
May 14, 2019
7:49 AM
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I thought you just plugged into one of the inputs, say a ‘normal’ input, then used a patch cable to connect the other ‘normal’ to one of the ‘bright’ inputs.
Or a different combination, but always connecting the other input from the channel you plugged your signal into.
You can get patch leads in music stores. People commonly use them for connecting pedals together
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barbequebob
3580 posts
May 14, 2019
11:01 AM
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@Littoral --- Yes I do and have owned it since 1983.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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Little roger
239 posts
May 16, 2019
12:53 PM
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I have no idea why it is but on my LTD from 96 the two channels are already linked. That means when I'm in the normal channel, the bright volume works too. When I have both on three, for example, great. However, if I'm in the bright channel, the normal knob seems to have no effect. Strange.
But the linking of Normal and Bright is great in my amp!
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barbequebob
3581 posts
May 17, 2019
8:14 AM
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@Little Roger -- That's exactly what happens with the real Bassman as well and I've explained this in a post earlier in this thread. However, if you plug into the bright channel, just like with the normal channel, never put the volume higher on the channel you're NOT plugged into any higher than 6.
This effect is exolained very well in Gerald Weber's book A Desktop Reference of Hip Vintage Guitar Amps by Gerld Weber of Kendrick Amps. It's a phenomenal book.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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Little roger
240 posts
May 17, 2019
9:37 PM
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Hey Bob. I had a Bassman that worked as I think you are describing. What happens here though is different, I believe. With a standard set up of ay ax ax, it is obviously very hard to get the volume up to six. So when I am in the normal channel and on 3, for example, the volume of the bright channel also only goes up to approx 3. No chance of getting to 6. It works as a true volume switch on top of the normal. But when in the bright channel, the normal volume switch does nothing.
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barbequebob
3583 posts
May 18, 2019
8:41 AM
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The volume knob you want to put on 6 is NOT the one you have the mic plugged into at all, and it's the channel you're NOT plugged into. That's where the confusion lies. On both versions of the reissues, the volume and tone controls use linear pots, meaning that the only changes are when the dial hits directly on the numbers and with audio taper pots, which are on THE REAL DEAL and the two BEST Bassman clone amps being made, which are the Clark Piedmont and the Victoria 45410 (and I'd take either one over ANY of the Fender reissues by a million country miles), and with audio taper pots, there are more settings inbetween the numbers and with the volume controls, you won't get past 3 normally for the channel you're plugged into and to get the same thing with amps that use linear pots, 3 on a real Bassman is about 5 or 6 on the reissues.
BTW, most presently made 12ax7's are really 12ax7a's, which tend to be tremendously more treble heavy than a real 12ax7 and right at this moment, the only newer production ones I'd recommend at this moment are the Tung Sol reissues, the JJ long plate 12ax7's, or the reissues Mullard long plate ones, which are less trebly and have more bottom end and midrange.
Again, the volume control you want to put on 6 is the volume control on the channel that you are NOT plugged into.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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Little roger
241 posts
May 18, 2019
9:07 AM
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Hi Bob,
Last attempt at explaining this.
If I am in the Normal channel, let say I put that on 3. So far so good. There is no chance of me turning the Bright volume up past 3. Never mind 6 as it works as a volume for the Normal channel too. Strange I know. But it is cool! Don't know why this is the case.
And yes, I have 60s GE 12ax7s in V2 and V3. Makes a difference.
Last Edited by Little roger on May 18, 2019 9:07 AM
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LSC
803 posts
May 18, 2019
2:30 PM
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To answer the original question. Any short lead such as is used to connect two pedals together will do. You can pick one up at any guitar store or online.
Straight 1/4" plug on both ends are easier to handle than the angled plugs. You can use longer cables but it's just extra to deal with. Any decent brand will do. Just stay away from thin Chinese crap as they will die before sunrise.
Also I would not take the suggested settings as gospel. Your results may vary.
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LSC
Last Edited by LSC on May 18, 2019 2:31 PM
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barbequebob
3584 posts
May 20, 2019
9:40 AM
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@ Little Roger -- If you can't turn the volume on the channel that you're NOT plugged into to 6, I'm going to assume that the amp you bought was already used and most likely has had some work done on it by an amp tech that's connected to most musical instrument stores and most of the have no clue about tweed amp circuitry at all and has messed the amp up big time with stuff that should NOT be in there. On all real Bassmans, including the reissues, the clones and the real deal ALL have this feature in common that I mentioned, so someone worked on it prior to you buying it and totally messed it up. BTW, NOS GE 12ax7's, especially the long plate versions from the late 50's to the mid 60's are GOLD in my book.
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Sincerely,
Barbeque Bob Maglinte
Boston, MA
http://www.barbequebob.com
CD available at http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/bbmaglinte
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Little roger
242 posts
May 20, 2019
10:41 AM
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Yep, I think that might be right Bob. It is as if there is a permanent jumper between the two channels, which is what the OP was asking about. Whatever it is, it works :-)
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