Hobostubs Ashlock
387 posts
Jan 22, 2010
5:12 AM
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i was asked to put some harp on a song thats a colab for acid planet with 2 other fellows,its done been wrote guitar and bass and vocals they just asked if i would like to put down some harp i said yes and asked what key and if they were tuned to 440,abd the guitar player said after checking he was tuned to 436 on his tuner,the key is in D how will that effect what key i would use could i still use a G harp for 2nd position or will it be off i have no flat keys except a bflat,they probelly wont notice to much but i want to get as close to being in key as i can.And if a flat key was needed what would it be f#?
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MrVerylongusername
847 posts
Jan 22, 2010
5:39 AM
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Apart from completely retuning a harp there's not a lot you can do, but assuming they are using digital recording software they may be able to bring your tuning down on the recording without affecting the timing. The difference we're talking about shouldn't affect the post-processed tone. Just play along with what you have and let them know the problem and see what they can do. BTW most harps are tuned brighter than A440 - I think you'll be about 28 cents (just over 1/4 semitone) too sharp.
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Hobostubs Ashlock
392 posts
Jan 22, 2010
5:40 AM
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i m using lee oskars they are tuned i think to 442 i think
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MrVerylongusername
848 posts
Jan 22, 2010
5:44 AM
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I worked it out assuming 443, so it's a bit less, but negligible in practical terms - still about 1/4 semitone too sharp
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Hobostubs Ashlock
394 posts
Jan 22, 2010
5:47 AM
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so if i dont have any flat key harps then a G world work but be kinda sharp?
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MrVerylongusername
849 posts
Jan 22, 2010
5:51 AM
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Yeah - forget using another key, the difference isn't big enough, you'll just make it worse! - Use your G harp and see if they can use pitch correction on your take to bring it down in line with their tracks.
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Hobostubs Ashlock
396 posts
Jan 22, 2010
5:52 AM
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thanks MrVerylongusername
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barbequebob
363 posts
Jan 22, 2010
6:15 AM
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Pitch correction makes the most practical sense here (AKA pitch shifter) because tuning a harp down completely like that is a lot of work, plus realistically, the actual harp has to be tuned to A438 and account for real playing breath dropping the pitch. In the 80`s, Stevie Wonder did a session with Chaka Khan where the solo they wanted in the actual key she sang in was tough to pull off on a key of C chromatic and so he played it in a key where it was easier to play it in and then a pitch shifter was used afterwards and that tune became a big hit and that was "I Feel For You."
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Hobostubs Ashlock
397 posts
Jan 22, 2010
6:19 AM
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i have a pitch corection button on my 8track ive never tried using it i wonder if thats what it is used for its a br-600
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