CJames
163 posts
Feb 02, 2010
2:22 AM
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Can anyone please explain?
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Bluefinger
32 posts
Feb 02, 2010
2:36 AM
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this might be helpful:
http://www.harmonicatunes.com/retuned.shtml
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CJames
164 posts
Feb 02, 2010
2:40 AM
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Do you know how it applies to chromatic harps? They way iv'e seen it explained isn't clear enough and I'm just trying to understand if i have to play differently on it
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Bluefinger
33 posts
Feb 02, 2010
4:30 AM
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I have to admit, that I'm not quite sure what you mean. The link I postet is about a special tuning for diatonic harps that brendon called "cross tuning".
Are you really talking about a cross TUNING or cross POSITION? I have never heard of a tuning for chromatics called "cross" ...
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MrVerylongusername
880 posts
Feb 02, 2010
4:43 AM
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It's not really a tuning - it's just the way the naturals and sharps are distributed between the reedplates. It makes no difference to how the chrom plays. Instead of having all sharps on top and all naturals on the bottom, on a cross tuned chrom they alternate, and the holes in the slide are cut differently.
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nacoran
968 posts
Feb 02, 2010
10:34 AM
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MVLUN is right. I think the CX-12 is cross tuned, thought don't quote me on that. It doesn't make any difference in how you play it, but it makes a huge difference when you open it up. Since the reeds are in different places if you don't know which one you have you won't know which reeds to adjust.
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barbequebob
417 posts
Feb 02, 2010
10:44 AM
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That's the correct definition. It was first done on the Hohner 280's in the mid to late 60's when they redesigned it from a straight tuned wood comb set up to the present plastic comb that's being used now.
It does allow more volume, but the thing I really hate about it is that the slide throw is longer and if you do stuff that needs very quick movement on the slide, it's a pain in the butt and you may need a different slide spring in it than the one it comes with.
The mouthpieces on cross tuned chromatics I've generally found quite uncomforable, with the exception of the long discontuned CBH series from Hohner that was designed by classical harp virtuoso Cham-Ber Huang, who was also head of their R&D department until he left them in the warrly 80's to form Huang Harmonicas.
About the only thing I like about the cross tuned mouthpiece/slide setup is that it's almost impossible to put them back together incorrectly.
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isaacullah
648 posts
Feb 02, 2010
12:45 PM
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The Educator 10 is "cross tuned". While it's my only chro (and I haven't ever played any other chro), I find the mouthpiece perfect comfortable (more so than that of a diatonic). I'm not sure about the slide throw, but having taken it apart, I don't really see how the slide could be made to move any less than it already does. Maybe this is different on other brnads/models? I don't know....
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barbequebob
420 posts
Feb 02, 2010
12:54 PM
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The throw length on the straight tuned styled is shorter and usually quicker. Most mouthpieces on straigh tuned chromatics tend to be more comfortable for me.
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Boston, MA
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CJames
165 posts
Feb 02, 2010
10:08 PM
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Yeah Nacoran's on it!, I was looking at the CX-12 and saw that it was cross tuned. threw me off a bit so i thought i'd investigate. bbqbob, is the longer slide really that inconvenient?
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