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toddlgreene
784 posts
Feb 13, 2010
7:46 PM

Yet another video of me being an assclown with a few different mics thru my new and still-stock Epi Valve Jr(only changed the 12ax7 to a 12ay7) hooked up to the Epiphone extension cabinet. It's got a Eminence 12 in it, and sounds pretty sweet. I can't wait til my combo is modded!










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cchc
Todd L. Greene, V.P.

Last Edited by on Feb 13, 2010 7:52 PM
Bluzdude46
462 posts
Feb 13, 2010
10:19 PM
Best 12" speaker out there for harp
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toddlgreene
793 posts
Feb 14, 2010
5:48 AM
The camera's mic didn't do it justice, but it made a HUGE difference vs. the onboard 8".
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cchc
Todd L. Greene, V.P.
Bluzdude46
467 posts
Feb 14, 2010
7:21 AM
thats why I kept the head version and sold the combo. The electronics are exactly the same you can slide out the whole chassis in a head and put it into the combo. Todd, next opportunity get a y cable and hook both the 12" and the 8" into the 8 ohm plug and crank it. Let me know what you think.
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toddlgreene
801 posts
Feb 14, 2010
7:30 AM
Ah, so that's how you do that...Will do. Thanks!
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Rick Davis
197 posts
Feb 14, 2010
7:57 AM
Yep, the vid camera does not do justice to the biggness of the sound of that Epi cab.

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blueswannabe
19 posts
Feb 14, 2010
8:11 AM
I'm planning on purchasing a 10-125A Harp speaker from Weber. I have an epi valve junior with 8 inch 4 ohm eminence. Can anyone suggest what ohm I should get (4, 8, or 16) for the 10A-125, keeping in mind that I would like to connect both speakers with a y cable to my epi.
pharpo
158 posts
Feb 14, 2010
8:12 AM
Sounds great Todd.....See you at Roosters !
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Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. - Charlie Parker
HarveyHarp
5 posts
Feb 14, 2010
11:14 AM
Todd, I'll make the Y cable for you.
Rick Davis
198 posts
Feb 14, 2010
2:04 PM


Okay, this is my VERY first ever vid with the Zoom Q3 I got for my birthday a couple days ago. There's not enough light, but what the heck. I'll do better next time. I'll get more vids at the Blues Jam we host at Ziggies tonight.

I'm playing my 1953 Masco ME-18 amp (2x6L6, 20 watts) into a stock Epiphone Valve Jr cab. It looks a little different because I popped off the plastic "Epiphone" thing and put a cool old metal thing on it. It says "Soulkicker."

I'm using a Front & Center microphone with crystal element and a stock Hohner Marine Band Deluxe harp. I start out with a hard bend on 2-draw, with some spit gurgling in the back of my throat to get the raspy sound.

The Zoom Q3 vid recorder is supposed to have better sound, and I'll let you be the judge of that. The Epi cab has good tone for being so inexpensive. I like it.


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-Rick Davis
Blues Harp Amps Blog
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Last Edited by on Feb 14, 2010 2:19 PM
blueswannabe
22 posts
Feb 14, 2010
3:57 PM
Rick, Great tone! This is the sound I would strive for in an amp and without an amp. No harsh distortion. Pure vintage. Excellent. Too much distortion detracts from the tone and is simply not pleasant to the ears (and especially to those who don't play the instrument). Some distortion around the edges of the notes is nice and highly desirable, at least to me.
Rick Davis
201 posts
Feb 14, 2010
4:03 PM
Blueswannabe, thanks for the kind words. That tone is what Gerald Weber of Kendrick Amps calls "a little hair on the notes." It's my favorite harp sound, too.

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toddlgreene
804 posts
Feb 14, 2010
4:26 PM
Sounds good, Rick! Man, where'd you get that SoulKicker badge? that's excellent.
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Todd L Greene. V.P.
toddlgreene
805 posts
Feb 14, 2010
4:29 PM
One thing I'll be happy about after the mod(besides the overtone being warmer)is being able to dial in the dirt separate from the volume.
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Rick Davis
203 posts
Feb 14, 2010
11:23 PM
Todd, a friend had the Soulkicker thing and gave it to me. I was looking around for an old Impala car insignia or something...

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Blues Harp Amps Blog
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6SN7
11 posts
Feb 15, 2010
8:07 AM
i enjoyed the demo with the masco18. very nice tone with your style of playing. A few times, you did some non pucker/single notes, and I liked the roar. Do you tongue block or do chords. I was wondering cause sometimes masco roar too much when you do hat. I won't ask if you overblow!
Rick Davis
205 posts
Feb 15, 2010
8:31 AM
6SN7 - (good tube, btw)

I don't think I tongue-blocked in that demo. I may have. I wasn't thinking about it. It sounds like I didn't.

You're right: the Masco will roar a bit on duo-tone chords, but that can be a good thing. The tone is round and warm.

Hey, I'm working on my OBs!

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Blues Harp Amps Blog
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toddlgreene
811 posts
Feb 15, 2010
8:52 AM
I was messing with my 6OBs last night, and a flock of mallards landed outside my window.
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pharpo
159 posts
Feb 15, 2010
9:00 AM
You better..DUCK !!
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Music is your own experience, your own thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn. They teach you there's a boundary line to music. But, man, there's no boundary line to art. - Charlie Parker
6SN7
12 posts
Feb 15, 2010
9:52 AM
Hi Rick, I didn't hear any 1-4 chords or any tongue blocking . A couple twp holers.

What I heard was pucker/single notes sounding full or "hairy". And that's what a masco is suppose to do.

When I do a scale of TB chords or a 2 note draw, I can a get a "tube ping" , an overdrive. Sounds too dirty (if that is possible) or the "marbles in the mouth" tone as my Lee Oskar, overblowing friend tells me. I have to dial it back and clean it up.

Good luck on the OB's.
Rick Davis
206 posts
Feb 15, 2010
11:50 AM
6sn7- no, a Masco is not "supposed" to make notes sound full. That comes from the player. Amps like the Masco have a unique attack/decay pattern that gives the notes a vintage character. The soft distortion makes well-played notes sound fuller, but poorly played notes -- no matter what technique you use -- cannot be rescued by the Masco or any other amp.

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6SN7
13 posts
Feb 15, 2010
2:56 PM
Rick, everybody at this site knows good technique is imperative to producing excellent tone.

If you had sounded like a wiener and the masco made you sound like the return of Little Walter, I would have said so and asked where I could buy one.
Rick Davis
207 posts
Feb 15, 2010
3:01 PM
Then tell me again what a Masco is "supposed" to do. I'm not sure I understood.

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Blues Harp Amps Blog
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6SN7
14 posts
Feb 16, 2010
5:31 AM
Okay Rick, I was joking , not being snarky. Chill. we are all friends here.

I said you played well and sounded good.

Then you decide to school me. I know where good tone comes from. Are we all suppose to sign a waiver before we come on this site of the ten commandments of harp playing?

You have described eloquently what a Masco Amp does. No sense me repeating it.

You posted a video. I commented on it. Isn't that what is suppose to happen here? Would you care to comment about "tube ping." That's something I have a question about and would be interested in a response from the forum.
Rick Davis
209 posts
Feb 16, 2010
10:30 AM
6SN7- I see what you meant now. Thanks.

I don't know what tube ping is. Do you mean when a tube becomes microphonic?

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6SN7
15 posts
Feb 16, 2010
1:20 PM
I don't know what that means, but please tell.

I thought about what I'm doing to get what I call a "tube ping."
I am tongue blocking a 1-4 chord, with the left side of my tongue and bending it. The tone is distorted, but something sound overdriven to my ears. That's about the best I can articulate it...


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