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Kingley
852 posts
Feb 15, 2010
2:50 PM
In these clips I'm using a Fender Princeton Reverb Reissue played straight off the stage ( not miced up). On the night one of the guys was complaining that the harmonica was too loud. I just wondered what you all think. Is it too loud compared to the rest of the band?









tookatooka
1215 posts
Feb 15, 2010
3:13 PM
I only watched the first one and in my opinion, no it wasn't too loud. Sounded just right to me.
blogward
88 posts
Feb 15, 2010
3:26 PM
Which guy? Were they sitting directly opposite your amp? Hard to tell with what sounds like a condenser mic on the camera - the drums sounds really soft, but in 'Rock Me Baby' the harp sometimes swamps everything else which might indicate a problem.
Tuckster
393 posts
Feb 15, 2010
3:32 PM
Only listened to 2. Nope you were fine. Harp is as much a lead instrument as guitar. I think they should be at the same loudness.
nacoran
1132 posts
Feb 15, 2010
3:41 PM
It sounded right in the mix on the first one.
oldwailer
1069 posts
Feb 15, 2010
4:32 PM
I listened to most of all of them--no harp too loud--sometimes, IMHO, maybe a little too much guitar--not enough harp. . .
Joe_L
27 posts
Feb 15, 2010
5:06 PM
Paul - it doesn't sound overpowering in the videos, but one thing I have learned is that placement of the recording device can mask some volume issues. In these videos, things sound good. On stage, the mix could be off, too. What matters most is what the audience thinks.
Jim Rumbaugh
155 posts
Feb 15, 2010
5:23 PM
The balance of the band was acceptable in all recordings (maybe needed more bass, but then, I'm a bass player)

I say the problem is amp placement. If hid amp is at his feet, and your amp is pointing at his head, yes the harp would seem to loud.

When you get a wireless unit, you can walk out into the audience and hear what they hear. It will surprise you.
Kingley
853 posts
Feb 15, 2010
11:57 PM
Thanks for the opinions guys. I thought the level was pretty much ok most of the time.

The problem was these guys at this particular jam session don't really know where a harp should be in the mix.
Andrew
903 posts
Feb 16, 2010
5:41 AM
The redhead in front looks as though she liked it. Who cares what the sound guys think!
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Last Edited by on Feb 16, 2010 5:42 AM
Bluzdude46
477 posts
Feb 16, 2010
5:55 AM
Kingley, every seat in every room is different. Looked like a room with a lot of sound challenges and bouncing waves, railing, columns, groups of people here & there. Halls are easy to do sound for they are straight ahead all the seating together. There is always someone in a bar(drinking) that thinks either they know sound or the mix is not what they would choose(that being the correct way of course) Over the years I've found a "Thanks for letting me know I'll try to fix that before the next set" Usually acknowledges that you heard their opinion and makes them happy, it also gives them a chance to have a couple more beers and be happy. If you start getting the same complaint from multiple people then adjust. I've done this many times and came off the stage for the next break to have them tell me that was a lot better!!! ... I never changed a thing.
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harmonicanick
606 posts
Feb 16, 2010
9:50 AM
Nice very relaxed vibe amongst your mates Kingley;

The camera picked up pretty well given it was an awkward pub venue, but arent they all!

Noisy bunch of women just in front, but you got her undivided attention at 8.57 on the last clip!!:)
Joe_L
30 posts
Feb 16, 2010
10:03 AM
If it's a jam, I wouldn't worry much about what the complainer thought. Do your thing! You're leading the band. They aren't.

If they give you grief on the bandstand, hand them the vocal mic and have them lead a tunes. ;-)
OzarkRich
107 posts
Feb 16, 2010
10:46 AM
MIL Blues was bit soft and Rock Me baby a bit loud at times but overall the harp was about right and on par with the guitars and vocal.

Perhaps he thought it was to loud because the bass and drums needed a little more volume to balance things out.
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Kingley
862 posts
Feb 16, 2010
11:00 AM
Thanks for the opinions guys. Some very sensible things said which all just confirm my view of things.

Hey maybe that woman will be at the next jam! :-)

Last Edited by on Feb 16, 2010 11:00 AM
The Gloth
231 posts
Feb 16, 2010
4:38 PM
From the "audience perspective", the balance seems ok. Maybe the problem is the stage sound ?


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