blueswannabe
25 posts
Feb 15, 2010
7:54 PM
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I'm in the market for a 10" speaker and wanted some opinons on this. I was thinking a weber 10A125. An thoughts?
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Rick Davis
208 posts
Feb 15, 2010
7:59 PM
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I use that speaker in my hot-rodded Fender SF Champ. Great tone.
'Your Amp Sounds Like It's Pissed Off'
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Blues Harp Amps Blog
Roadhouse Joe Blues Band
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blueswannabe
26 posts
Feb 15, 2010
8:28 PM
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Rick, Read your article about the champ. Thanks. I'm building an amp using a 1959 mono amp with 2 EL4's (I know you're not crazy about them) but the amp sounds nice. I wanted to match up a nice speaker for it. I'm building a box using 1/2 pine and a 3/4 inch baltic birch baffle. Any other suggestions come to mind? I'm choosing a 10 inch because the consensus seems to be that generally speaking a 12 inch speaker is not as well suited to harp as a 10 inch.
Last Edited by on Feb 15, 2010 8:29 PM
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mrdon46
28 posts
Feb 15, 2010
10:29 PM
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Weber 10A125-O (smooth cone) with the H dust cap. The 10A125 (ribbed) is a bit brighter, but also very good--in general, I think maybe smooth cone speakers are better for harp, earlier breakup, warmer, maybe a bit more feedback resistant--but this is just a generality, really depends on the individual speaker, the characteristics of the specific amp, and what you like. For a ceramic, the Eminence Li'l Buddy is great, those hemp cone speakers seem to have a warm smokiness all their own--though I think it probably works best in combo with another speaker (like the 10A125-O)--the Li'l Buddy on its own may be too dark for some. If I had to pick one 10" speaker for a medium-power amp, it'd be the 10A125-O.
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mrdon46
29 posts
Feb 15, 2010
10:50 PM
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Blueswannabe--another thought--your amp will have 2 EL84s (I'm guessing, your post said EL4s)--are these in push-pull? If so, you're looking at maybe 15W or so, you might want to consider a pair of 10s--depending of course on how the amp will be used. Guitar players seem to be able to push 100W of power through a 10" speaker and get away with it, but I think with harp the amount of speaker surface area is much more important in terms of usable volume, and there's no substitute for having enough. For a 15W amp I'd want a pair of 10s, or at the least a 12" (there are some very good ones, check out the relevant thread on this site) or a pair of 8s (Weber Sig8 alnico and Sig8 ceramic is a great low-cost combo). But that's just me, I'm sure others have equally well-founded opinions that may differ.
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blueswannabe
27 posts
Feb 16, 2010
5:54 AM
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Mr. Don, It's a push pull amp with about 12 watts. I am actually thinking about a pair of 10s, smooth cone.
Last Edited by on Feb 16, 2010 5:56 AM
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barbequebob
476 posts
Feb 16, 2010
9:27 AM
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If you can find a vintage Jensen P10R that hasn't been messed with (that is reconed, and often times when this is done, often times the wrong paper, wiring, glue and glueing technqiue isn't correct for the real deal), my next best choice that's actually not expensive is what Fender used on the first Bassman RI's, the original 4-10 Blues DeVille, and the Pro Junior was a 25 watt Eminence Legend that has an alnico magnet speaker.
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MJ
82 posts
Feb 16, 2010
9:40 AM
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I pick the Weber 10F125-O as my favorite 10" speaker for harp. I prefer ceramic over Alnico because the sound seems more robust to my ear in the amp I use.
It has the smooth cone which as has been mentioned, seems warmer and is less prone to feedback. To every ear there is a speaker that pleases. So many speakers..so many ears.
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blueswannabe
28 posts
Feb 16, 2010
4:30 PM
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I just bought a pair of vintage Jensen P10S smooth cones in excellent and original condition(lower watage than p10R). Hope I made the right call. Looks like I'm going to build a cab with a pair of 10's.
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htownfess
17 posts
Feb 16, 2010
6:04 PM
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With an EL84 amp, you probably don't need speaker breakup--smooth cone speakers will probably cost you headroom or make the amp sound too grindy/wasp-buzzy at max output. But two smooth cones will lessen the effect. May work just fine & I hope they live a good long while. If there is too much breakup, try one ribbed cone first, see if that's a happy medium. Can't go wrong with a Sig S or the blue Eminence alnico that Bob mentioned, or 10A125/10F125.
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Nastyolddog
207 posts
Feb 16, 2010
8:03 PM
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Hi Bro's you got me on this one I'm waiting for my Harp Gear 2 to arrive it's got a weber speaker in it but only 8" what model of weber is it,,then i see the Budget Harp Gear amp with a 10"speaker,,so im in two minds do i wait for it to arrive then build a cab put two 8" speakers in it like the Double Trouble or just go for a single cab with a 10"speaker or leave the amp as it is and just build a extension cab
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Joe_L
32 posts
Feb 17, 2010
1:25 AM
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No. You play the shit out of Harpgear 2 until the Sig 8 dies and then you replace it with a 8A125-O with a H dustcap. I put one of those in my Champ clone when Weber was running a sale on them. It tamed a bit of brightness, but the brightness of the Sig 8 was not objectionable. In fact, it helped to cut through the mix a bit. Play it, before you decide you hate it.
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Bluefinger
86 posts
Feb 17, 2010
2:21 AM
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I thought the Weber Vintage Series speakers don't fit into champ cabs due to their size. Did you have to modify it?
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Nastyolddog
214 posts
Feb 17, 2010
3:14 AM
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Brother Joe_L mate i will leave it as is and Splash some cash on a Lone wolf Delay Pedal instead thanks for the info I'm of to Lonewolf web page gunna get me some Delaaaaay
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Kingley
865 posts
Feb 17, 2010
3:14 AM
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I like the Jensen C10R, P10R and the Eminence Legend. The only Webers I have ever tried are 8" speakers which were great. So I imagine that the 10's are as good if not better. The 10A125/10F125 do seem to get great reviews.
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