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tookatooka
1252 posts
Feb 21, 2010
3:43 PM
Taking it to another level. Odd as it is, I like it. Hope Isaac sees this one.

GermanHarpist
1136 posts
Feb 21, 2010
3:50 PM
One half of my brain thinks WTF??? and the other wants me to stand up and dance!
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tookatooka
1253 posts
Feb 21, 2010
3:54 PM
This bloke is either a complete nutter or a genius. He has some more videos on youtube which are really mind bending. Here's another masterpiece.

Elwood
363 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:00 PM
Strange, because his hair and beard say "I'm just a regular joe; I hope you like my completely ordinary music which is not at all mind-bendingly nutty."
tookatooka
1254 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:09 PM
Isaac, you gotta watch this one. Just up your street.

phogi
270 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:41 PM
I love it. This is the street where my mind lives, I just pretend it does not.
jonsparrow
2343 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:43 PM
i used to do stuff like that a few years ago. ill still have some pretty crazy recordings that would give you nightmares. i used to drink allot of absinthe at the time.
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Elwood
365 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:52 PM
MBH without Jon would be like the A Team without Murdock
Oisin
446 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:53 PM
If you like this you'll love this then...the lead singer actually looks like this guys son!




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phogi
271 posts
Feb 21, 2010
4:58 PM
mmm, nah that's no good. No direction. It almost works, but not quite.
isaacullah
749 posts
Feb 21, 2010
5:04 PM
Holy shit! This guy is my new idol!!!! Great industro-techno tronic grunge dirt noise! I love it! He is a genius in my book! :)

Thanks for passing this link along tooka... I will be studying them in depth!
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Oisin
447 posts
Feb 21, 2010
5:07 PM
you know what phogi you are right. I didn't listen to the 2nd and 3rd videos and after doing so Battles are nowhere near as crazy as this guy. I love fucked up shit like this and always have...the more fucked up the better.
Nastyolddog put up a video of Anklepants which is also excellent.

Oisin
phogi
272 posts
Feb 21, 2010
6:19 PM
Oisin,

in my mind it was not the craziness that differentiated the two...it was quality. Sxip has is, battles are trying but not there yet. In Sxip I hear somone who has studied Stockhausen and Aphex Twin, in Battles I hear something that just isn't there yet.
Oisin
450 posts
Feb 21, 2010
7:52 PM
Really? I really like that Battles tune. I have see Aphex Twin over here in London and he was mind-blowing but I saw Battles play this song live on TV and it was awesome.
Have you ever listened to God Speed You Black Emperor? They are a Canadian collective and they are pretty far out there too.

Oisin
LittleJoeSamson
243 posts
Feb 21, 2010
8:20 PM
This is derivative Gregorian chants with Sergio Leone riffs.

Old stuff
tookatooka
1255 posts
Feb 22, 2010
2:22 AM
Derivative? May be but for the performance aspect alone
I'd prefer to watch Sxip perform than an awful lot of others churning out old blues melodies.
Nastyolddog
250 posts
Feb 22, 2010
2:50 AM
........................Hi Bro's i posted this vid in my thread Barking Freaking out i been known to experiment with many things in my Life
Nastyolddog
251 posts
Feb 22, 2010
2:55 AM
........................More experimental music Played via a Fender G-DEC useing Reverse Delay and a sick mind
markdc70
20 posts
Feb 22, 2010
7:13 AM
All I can say is I'm really glad I don't have to live inside that Shirey guy's head. That would be a strange, depressing place!
isaacullah
751 posts
Feb 22, 2010
1:37 PM
Actually, I have some "exerimental" stuff that I might post up here... It's more like a sketch of song that i'm making. I'm calling it "devilbilly" for now... I have some video of me rehersing it... It's not nearly finished enough for me to want to post to YouTube, bu i might link it up through my photobucket account if any of you are interested in it. It uses my one string cigar box guitar, RP155, and harp... Anyway, I think all of you who liked that Sxip Shirey stuff might like it... Let me know and i'll post it...
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tookatooka
1257 posts
Feb 22, 2010
2:12 PM
Yeah post away Isaac, I'd like to see what you are up to. I watched all the Sxip videos. He is one helluva guy. He is very talented and a seriously accomplished musician. Puts on a great show.
GermanHarpist
1139 posts
Feb 22, 2010
2:25 PM
Hell yeah! Post it.
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isaacullah
752 posts
Feb 22, 2010
2:40 PM
Okay, It'll be a couple of hours from now since I'm still here at school, and I'm going to a colloquium first before I can head home... I'll post it when I get home...
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isaacullah
754 posts
Feb 22, 2010
5:55 PM
Alright, here it is. This is from my photobucket account, not YouTube. This isn't together enough for me to consider it a complete song yet, and I'm mainly noodling on the harp part trying to find things that work in the overall theme of the piece. My inspiration is from Psycobilly music, mainly the song "Bad Things" which has gained fame as being the theme song for the show "True Blood". I had vampires and other monsters in my head for this. It's not quite as experimental as Sxip Shirey, but it's experimental for me! Thoughts, ideas, and suggestions for ways to go will be appreciated!



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isaacullah
755 posts
Feb 22, 2010
5:58 PM
BTW, I've started videoing these experimental sessions, and saving out the parts I want to remember. Otherwise I tend to forget all the things I was doing, and I'll "loose" the song. I'll usually go through about three "noodling" sessions before I've got something I consider to be a "song". I've found this method to be a pretty good creation tool...
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isaacullah
756 posts
Feb 23, 2010
9:06 AM
Just giving this a Bump to make sure Tooka and Gh see it...
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toddlgreene
874 posts
Feb 23, 2010
9:10 AM
Very cool isaac-are you looping with the RP155, or something else?(I'm not aware of the capabilities of the RP)
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isaacullah
757 posts
Feb 23, 2010
9:40 AM
@todd. Yes, the new RP's (with the *55 suffix) all have a built in looper. It's not as fully functional as most dedicated loop pedals (which have several independant loops you can trigger seperately), but it's pretty damn good. You can do overdubs (sound on sound), and you can bypass it while it still loops in the background so that when you bring it back, it's still in sync with you. It's also got a sound activated record function so that you can just arm it, and then start playing, and it will begin the loop recording automatically. Also, you can still change to another amp/fx patch while it's looping so you can get any tone you want for an overdub or to play along. The audio quality of the loop is very very good. It's a pretty sweet piece of machinery, and it costs LESS THAN HALF than the most simple, cheapest, loop pedal (the BOSS RC-2 at $190, which only can do one loop), and does much much much more than that BOSS pedal can do.
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tookatooka
1258 posts
Feb 23, 2010
10:03 AM
Don't think photobucket did you any favours with the sound quality there Isaac. I get the gist of where you're going with this though. Looking forward to see how you develop this. It's exciting watching a new genre in its embryonic stages. I'm going to have to do some fruity looping and get in on this.

Thanks for the vid.
isaacullah
759 posts
Feb 23, 2010
11:06 AM
Wow, yeah, I just listened to the photobucket vid, and the sound is all different. Note to self: don't use photobucket for videos any more! The sound wasn't very good to begin with since I was just using my crappy web camera to record this. Like I said, this was just a sketch to help me remember what I was doing. If/when I develop this further, I'll record it better and post it again... Thanks for listening though!
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sgsax
26 posts
Feb 23, 2010
11:07 AM
Weirdness just for the sake of being weird bores me. Some of the rhythmic stuff Sxip is doing is interesting, but frankly I think Son of Dave is more musically coherent. The Battles had me going until the chipmunks-style process vocals. It's gotta make sense, otherwise you're just wanking, and who wants to watch you do that? Maybe I shouldn't have asked...
Oisin
452 posts
Feb 23, 2010
1:53 PM
Isaac I think it's great. I got an Akai headrush for christmas and I'm still messing with it and learning what it can do. I'm trying out something similar with a few chords on the guitar and then harp over the top.
I've tried doing a few Irish type rhythms on the bongos as well and that's coming on well. I need to get a webcam and record some and try and post them.

Keep it up man...weird/crazy is always good in my book, crazier the better.

Thanks for posting the original video Tooka...we need more of this on the forum.

I'm an incurable masturbater by the way!

Oisin

Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2010 1:54 PM
nacoran
1205 posts
Feb 23, 2010
3:19 PM
Oisin- Use it or lose it. :)

Anyway, here is my attempt at something a little harpboxy. It's done in two tracks, on LLF and C. The only effect is to amplify it a bit since the recording was really quiet and to fix the rhythm in the melody a little bit (by cutting and pasting blank sound from behind the note to in front of it.) It's just a clip from the tune. I screwed up the rhythm in the recording. I'll post the longer version when I get that fixed.

Link to Thumper

Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2010 3:19 PM
isaacullah
760 posts
Feb 23, 2010
3:49 PM
Thanks Oisin! Yeah, I will do another take of this soon, and post it with better audio/video quality.
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isaacullah
761 posts
Feb 23, 2010
4:51 PM
nacoran: I liked that! I think the rhythm track was damn good. Yeah, I heard the few times where you were off the beat, but that can easily be fixed. For the melody track, I liked your note combination, but I think that it would be more fitting if you added some reverb or delay. At least I've found when adding in melody tracks on a higher harp, that delay/verb will make them stand out more, while at the same time helping them lay more rhythmically aligned with they underlying beat/rhythm track...

Good job! We are starting a whole new genre here!
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nacoran
1209 posts
Feb 23, 2010
5:27 PM
Thanks Isaac. I was kind of improvising the melody. I've worked on it a little more and have it down better. I could just bring the volume on that track up a bit too. Unfortunately my computer is a little short on ram and half the time when I try to add effects Audacity crashes. I've almost got enough scraped together for a new CPU/Motherboard/RAM combo. I've been playing over that even higher on the upper end of the C harp.

The next step is to rerecord the whole thing. It's kind of hard because on the beat track the percussive noise I'm making is very slobbery; it's a tongue cluck and a lip smack that uses the air seal to get a little rebound note, but by the time I get towards the end of the song the harp has ideas of it's own.

edit- I'm also working on a video for it. I've got some shaky video I took of a ground wasp building it's nest. I'm hoping I can synchronize it's little tail shakes to the music!

Last Edited by on Feb 23, 2010 5:30 PM


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