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toddlgreene
920 posts
Feb 27, 2010
6:53 AM
My new band is already adding another dimension-a lady singer for some tunes...I haven't heard her yet, but according to the guys, she's got one hell of a voice-Aretha Franklin's right up her alley. So, my task is this: to come up with some killer songs in the mostly-blues vein for her to join us in. Cool by me-I'm totally fine just laying back and playing harp or singing backup. Problem is, I totally draw a blank when it comes to female blues singers(other than Etta James). Help a brother out:please name some singers and songs for me to consider. Videos are welcome!

BTW, it's somewhat irrelevant, but she was a former Miss Arkansas, so I guess I'll have to give up my tiara. ;-)

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/xB7C0pG0iwg/The+2006+Miss+America+Pageant/Jdb4zHHc-4t/Eudora+Mosby


Bring on the tunes! Doesn't matter if the recordings have harp content or horns or not at all;we'll tweak them to suit. Thanks!
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eharp
525 posts
Feb 27, 2010
7:08 AM
we have a female singer. we do just have her change the gender for songs, or use "baby", "sugar", and such.
keys to the highway
statesboro blues
am i wrong
things i use to do
my old friend the blues
angel fom montgomery

check out thornetta davis on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kg-9awPaJI&feature=related

female singers-etta james, koko taylor, sheri kane (madcat&kane), marcie ball, thorneta davis, Ma Rainey, Bessie Smith, Mamie Smith, Ethel Waters, Ida Cox, Victoria Spivey, Sippie Wallace, Alberta Hunter, Clara Smith, Edith Wilson, Sara Martin, Trixie Smith, Lucille Hegamin and Bertha “Chippie” Hill, Lizzie Miles, Viola McCoy, Rosa Henderson, Martha Copeland, Bessie Jackson (Lucille Bogan), Edith Johnson, Katherine Baker, Margaret Johnson, Hattie Burleson, Madlyn Davis, Ivy Smith, Maggie Jones, Alberta Brown, Gladys Bentley, Billie Pierce, Ida Goodson, Virginia Liston, Fannie May Goosby, Bernice Edwards and Florence Mills.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_classic_female_blues_singers
The Gloth
242 posts
Feb 27, 2010
7:18 AM
Koko Taylor : check the songs "Wang Dang Doodle" and "Insane Asylum" among others. "Insane Asylum" is a great song for a vocal duet male/female.

Bessie Smith, Ma Rainey, Memphis Minnie in a "old style".

Mahalia Jackson sings mainly gospel, but does some incredible blues too.

Big Mama Thornton, more in the Chicago style, almost rock n'roll (Elvis took "Hound Dog" from her).

Check also the great jazz singers : Nina Simone, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday
toddlgreene
923 posts
Feb 27, 2010
7:22 AM
Cool, I like duets..but I'll have to see if I can hang with this gal first! Keep 'em coming-videos would be a plus, if y'all know of any great recorded versions on youtube or elsewhere-would save me some digging time!
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NiteCrawler .
41 posts
Feb 27, 2010
2:49 PM
Lou Ann Barton,Janiva Magness,Bonnie Raitt,Shemieka Copeland,Candy Kane( no ex -Miss Arkansas,but ex porn star)Irma Thomas,Denise LaSalle,Ruth Brown,Marva Wright, Debbie Davies and Angela Strehli.If I can think of any more I,ll post em for you.I knew I had heard Sugar Ray Norcia duet with a gal a few years back and looked it up on his discography and he did one in 94 and 96 with a gal named Michelle Willson,really great tunes you may want to check them out.

Last Edited by on Feb 27, 2010 4:02 PM
MichaelAndrewLo
201 posts
Feb 27, 2010
2:53 PM
The Gloth
245 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:02 PM


mankycodpiece
121 posts
Feb 28, 2010
5:25 AM
Janis Joplin.the greatest female blues singer of them all,for me.
most of the others,with a few exceptions,sound much alike to me.janis is a one off.
when she first came to prominence,a lot of people thought she was black.she does sound black,but that doesn't make her the best.she sings blues like no other womanIMO.that makes her the best.
i see big mama thornton mentioned here a few times.
i'm not able to do it,but somebody could put BMT and jj on here singing Ball and Chain.i think the version of JJ thats the best is the one from the Monteray festival,outstanding.
loads of great songs,move over,piece of my heart,little girl blue,kosmic blues.
BTW,Mahalia Jackson is a favorite if mine too.
The Gloth
248 posts
Feb 28, 2010
8:09 AM
I agree that Janis Joplin is a great blues singer, and that she's apart from other female singers. The Kozmic Blues album is my favorite from her.
mankycodpiece
122 posts
Feb 28, 2010
10:05 AM
Gloth,i was lucky enough to see her live 3 times when she toured the UK.five feet and a bit,all beads and feathers,and just absolutely owned the place she was performing at.
i've seen many others,non come close.
i had a look on you tube for different versions of Little Girl Blue,there's a few different versions.nina simone is one of them,but comparing them to Janis is just laughable.
having read what i've written here,it makes it look as if i'm eulogizing Janis,maybe i am,but no apologies from me.she's been gone since the 60s,and still i haven't heard any woman come close to what she could do with a song.
am i exagerating? some of her stuff is on you tube,have a listen for yourselves and let me know.
harmonicanick
632 posts
Feb 28, 2010
10:36 AM
@toddlgreene

I have played harp for 3 blues bands over the years with female singers.
In my experience singers will arrive with their own agenda, and their own range of stuff, dependant on the vocal range they are comfortable with.
I would strongly suggest you and your band mates audition this singer formally before offering a permanent place in the band.
Take it from me it may be cool by you at the moment, but its best to see if you all sync in together musically and otherwise because you will be changing the dynamics of the band completely..it saves a lot of time wasting:-)
toddlgreene
928 posts
Feb 28, 2010
12:06 PM
Good point, Harmonicanick...the band I've joined was formally a female-fronted band with a reportoire of r&b and blues, and I have basically stripped off the r&b and added a lot more blues. They are considering playing a separate thing just with her, but also want to fit her in. Don't worry;I don't let just anyone onstage...I've had that go sour before!
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barbequebob
547 posts
Feb 28, 2010
12:55 PM
With female blues singers, you should expect to do a lot more jump blues than the more down home variety. Too often with a lot of white female blues singers, first thing I hear too often are Janis Joplin and Bonnie Raitt wannabes, and I almost don't want to hear another one.

Michelle Willson is a good friend of mine I've known for many years. It did take her a while to learn to sing more like a black singer, in terms of phrasing more off the 2 and the 4, rather than the way rockers tend to do, which is off the 1 and the 3.

I can't believe no one has mentioned Memphis Minnie, who was hugely influential in the Chicago blues scene in the 40's and 50's.
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Joe_L
51 posts
Feb 28, 2010
3:55 PM
Bob - Most of the people here aren't hardcore blues fans and aren't going to dig deeper than Janis Joplin or Bonnie Raitt. I swear if I hear another women singer do, "You Can Have My Husband" or "Love Me Like A Man", I think I'll go nuts.

Todd - If you are doing more of a modern style Blues band, take a listen to some of the most recent female singers from Chicago. Many of whom got their start by working with Sunnyland Slim. (Sunnyland was the guy that introduced Muddy Waters to the Chess brothers.)

Bonnie Lee, Zora Young and Big Time Sarah are three with a traditional take on the Blues, yet mixed in some more modern tunes. Pick up any of their CD's. Some other female Chicago singers to look into are Shirley Johnson, Pat Scott and Karen Carroll. There is a nice CD with them called, "The Women of Blue Chicago."

If she sings in more of a R&B/Soul vein, take a listen to some of the Southern Soul singers like Irma Thomas, Denise LaSalle or Lynn White.

The good news is if you pick tunes from some of the lesser known artists, your stuff may sound more original and less like a cover band doing well known tunes.
LittleJoeSamson
255 posts
Feb 28, 2010
9:27 PM
Yeah, Memphis Minnie was quintessential. Not only a superlative performer, but composer/lyricist, too.

Billie Holliday for the voice.
Mabel Mercer for the phrasing.

Cab Calloway's sister Blanche is a forgotten great.
Kyzer Sosa
152 posts
Feb 28, 2010
9:40 PM
Mississippi Mille... I had the honor of sharing the stage with her for my first performance in front of an audience...



heres another...


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Last Edited by on Feb 28, 2010 9:41 PM
Honkin On Bobo
208 posts
Mar 01, 2010
8:03 AM
Susan Tedeschi, covering Little by Little, plenty of room for some great harmonica fills. No harp on this live version, but the studio version has some nice harp. Not sure who's playing though.

toddlgreene
938 posts
Mar 01, 2010
8:26 AM
Cool ideas thusfar-thanks! keep 'em coming. I was listening to some Shemekia Copeland tunes yesterday on YouTube, and I'm offering those up as suggestions, too. I think one was called Wild Woman.

As for harp content on recordings or not, that isn't an issue, because I'll add it! In fact, I love if a tune has signature horn or key parts;I get to emulate them.

p.s., if anyone finds some cool duets, I'd be all for it.
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Last Edited by on Mar 01, 2010 8:47 AM
Honkin On Bobo
209 posts
Mar 01, 2010
8:43 AM
Or how about Koko Taylor....Evil


harpdude61
15 posts
Mar 01, 2010
8:54 AM
Pick up the CD "Blue to the Bone" by Etta James. All of these songs are blues standards and all but a couple have harmonica parts.
kudzurunner
1156 posts
Mar 01, 2010
9:25 AM
Denise Lasalle and Ernestine Anderson are two of my favorites.

Here's DL:



Here's Ernestine Anderson:

kudzurunner
1157 posts
Mar 01, 2010
9:29 AM
More:



LittleJoeSamson
256 posts
Mar 01, 2010
9:41 AM
Two more:
Kathy Richardson
E.G Kight
snakes
472 posts
Mar 01, 2010
10:10 AM
You should do "I Won't Be Around" which is a song by Janiva Magness. If she can exude half the emotion Janiva does she'll get a standing O' every time.
snakes
473 posts
Mar 01, 2010
10:11 AM
You'll need some background guy harmony vocals reminiscent of the cats that sang behind Elvis to make it real cool.


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