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JefffM
1 post
Mar 10, 2010
11:32 AM
Hi guys,

I have an old green bullet - a 520SLB which was originally on a base station. It's the lo z version though.

What is my best bet for making it into a good harp mic? Am I better trying to get it converted to hi z with a transformer or replacing the element altogether. If the latter, what should I replace it with?

At the moment, it just has 2 thin wires coming out of it so I will either need to fit a cable or some sort of connecter to it.

Better still, does anyone know of someone in/near London UK who could do this for me at a reasonable price.

Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2010 11:33 AM
Oxharp
198 posts
Mar 10, 2010
11:49 AM
Hi,
Dave Shannon is in London N12.
I got his details from the National Harmonica League
magazine it says he deals in Vinatge and custom harmonica mics for sale so I guess he does the repairs etc.
His Phone number is 07918 147548
email is daveshannon@mac.com

I give these details out because they are in the public domain already.
Hope this helps.
Russ
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Oxharp
rharley5652
105 posts
Mar 10, 2010
12:07 PM
SAy Oxharp ,..
He said :
in/near London UK who could do this for me at a reasonable price.

Well I'm not near London,.but ya must have forgot the reasonable price part,..

How fast we forget about Low Z to High Z Super Boost Louisiana Smoke an Silver Bullet,..LOLO
Rememeber what ya said about my low z to high Z Transform Super Boost Mod compared to a few of your black labels?? LOL

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Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2010 12:19 PM
Oxharp
200 posts
Mar 10, 2010
12:17 PM
Just passin on my thoughts Ron.
I guess because he said In/near London I put him on to some home grown guys.

BTW JefffM dont forget SUKM for repairs! OK!
he is good to go (nuff said)
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Oxharp
rharley5652
106 posts
Mar 10, 2010
12:21 PM
Ox,.I was just messin with ya ,..Jeff,.drop me a message at the link below ,..I'll take care of ya

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Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2010 12:22 PM
Joe_L
74 posts
Mar 10, 2010
1:51 PM
Jeff - Can you please share what you decide to do? I've got one of those with a low Z element, too.
rharley5652
108 posts
Mar 10, 2010
1:53 PM
Joe_L & Jeff
Click on the link below ,..listen to the video Bang,Bang,Bang of the UK's Mr.Giles King ,.Blowin through Memphis Blood ,.My Low Z 99C86 Hotrodded build.
Message me if ya'd like .
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Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2010 1:58 PM
Nastyolddog
392 posts
Mar 10, 2010
8:44 PM
Hi Brother jfffM,

So you have an old green bullet 520SLB

Whats your best bet for making it into a good harp mic?

would it be better trying to get it converted to hi z with a transformer

YES and NO;

what type of amp do you have,

you will find the shure,
low-z Bullet has plenty of power
for playing at home,
enough to get you kicked
out of your rental flate for noise violations,

but if you are useing on stage with a Band get
the mini transformers from mouser.com
i can give you the parts #,

keep the low-Z element there is no need to replace it
with a Hi-Z,
it will have as good some times better
tone than a Hi-Z element,

to keep costs down it's better to find someone close by,
get to know them you may be back,

you will find the conversions are cheap
and simple to do,
for a good Audio tech this should be
a fairly simple job to do,
Greg Heumann
354 posts
Mar 10, 2010
8:46 PM
I agree with the Nasty Old Dog.

I like to build the transformer into the mic. I also like to convert the mic over to screw-on connector. Those elements can be very good - sometimes a little too hot, but a volume control can help there.
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/Greg

BlowsMeAway Productions
BlueState - my band
Bluestate on iTunes

Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2010 8:47 PM
rharley5652
113 posts
Mar 10, 2010
11:53 PM
Those Shure Low Z's with a transformer are a hot set up ,.soon that will be the only Shure element you'll be able to get as the price of Hi Z's go up & people hoard the Hi Z's,..yes,. I'm guilty of being 1 of those people !

I Built Memphis Blood up for Giles King with a built in transformer an just an On-Off switch No Volume Control,. & 5/8" Switchcraft connector.

This is Giles King's Memphis Blood !

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Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2010 11:56 PM
JefffM
2 posts
Mar 10, 2010
11:55 PM
Hi Guys,

Thanks for your input so far.

Nasty Old Dog - I'm primarily a guitar player so no shortage of amps :) At home and for recording I use one of the little "Electar" valve amps (modded, so not a million miles away from a Fender Champ) but am seriously thinking of getting the re-issue Vox AC-4. If I ever get to the point where I gig with it, my usual guitar amp is a Musicman 65 watt 2x10 or an old Vox AC-30.

I am thinking that since the mic would have to be taken apart to fit either a cable or a screw-on connector, it would make sense to have the mini transformer fitted at the same time.

It is very good news that I probably will not need to replace the element (assuming it works).

If you could let me have that part number for the mini transformer, that would be great. So there is enough space inside the shell to fit it inside?

Thanks again guys,

Jeff

Last Edited by on Mar 10, 2010 11:57 PM
Nastyolddog
393 posts
Mar 11, 2010
1:01 AM
Yo Bro it's XICON Mini Transformer
part #42TM117-RC

the reason i asked what amps you had
and where played is,because the low-z
mic will be less prone to feedback with a normal guitar amp

with the hardware you have
and only playing at home recording
the mic would do just fine as it is,

i have a Low-z 300 ohms Shure Black Label
controlled reluctance element
its great for home use
louder than one would think,
got no plans of fitting a transformer,

Good Luck with yout Mic Bro
rharley5652
116 posts
Mar 11, 2010
1:10 AM
nasty ,.right as rice on the low Z for home use,.no feedback issues & the neighbors will know your home !
Never saw a low Z Shure Black Label ,.can ya post a picture of it?
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Nastyolddog
395 posts
Mar 11, 2010
1:23 AM
Yo rharley they don't look much different
but yes i will get you some pics soon its 830pm at night Bro ill get to it soon.
JefffM
3 posts
Mar 12, 2010
12:59 PM
Thanks for all your advice guys.

I decided to initially just wire a guitar cable to it, which I did tonight. Haven't been able to test it through anything decent yet but my little battery amp at least tells me it's working.

I'll play with it as it is for a few months before I decide on whether or not to fit volume control/screw connecter/transformer. Actually, I kind of like the simplicity of it.

Joe L, I would really encourage you to do this with your one as it's really easy to do and doesn't stop you from doing the more adventurous mods later if you want to.


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