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phogi
335 posts
Mar 13, 2010
1:18 PM
So, I'd like to be more versatile. For harp, what are some of the standard tunes/chord progressions for moving in that direction?

Also, some good examples of intermediate playing over such changes would be cool.
geordiebluesman
266 posts
Mar 13, 2010
1:41 PM
Hey Phogi, if you check back a few days worth of posts you will find a link to a whole bunch of interesting chord progressions
HarpNinja
259 posts
Mar 13, 2010
6:59 PM
I am going to say something that others might disagree with. I think it is more important to focus on learning different scales and how to apply them over a diatonic chord progression before learning to follow complicated harmonies.

From a gigging standpoint, if you are rooted in the blues then chances are you are playing songs based around a diatonic key center where you don't need to follow the harmony to stay in key.

For example, how many thousands of rock songs have diatonic progressions where just using a pentatonic is enough?

Also, while following harmony can lead to some cool sounds, one can be very melodic and intentional with one chord scale over said sorts of progressions.


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phogi
338 posts
Mar 14, 2010
4:33 AM
You mean this one?

http://www.modernbluesharmonica.com/board/board_topic/5560960/562709.htm

I guess I should rephrase: I know other chord progressions, but I'm asking everybody their opinion of what was most useful for them.
Buddha
1490 posts
Mar 14, 2010
6:08 AM
learn to be interesting over ONE chord before moving on. You can begin to investigate 36251 progressions
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oldwailer
1119 posts
Mar 14, 2010
11:41 AM
An old tune I do on guitar that uses a 36251 progression is "Salty Dog." I do a Mississippi John hurt version--I have a version by Chet Atkins--and one that I think is Earl Scruggs.

Of course, Buddha, I think you probably have a much more sophisticated, jazzier idea in mind than this old country stuff--but it works very well for some of the Piedmont type blues too. . .
oldwailer
1121 posts
Mar 14, 2010
11:51 AM
Just remembered--I made a short video of "Salty Dog"--I think it was the first one I put on YT--this is just to give an idea of the progression Buddha mentioned above--there's no harp--so somebody might like to jam with it to get the progression down. . .

MrVerylongusername
973 posts
Mar 14, 2010
12:13 PM
I think Buddhas advice to get comfortable over a single chord is good advice. It's definitely helped me recently.

On Howard Levy's site he does a number of excercises using an elecronic tanpura drone box. It is amazing how it really puts 5th and 12th position into context - all of a sudden you no longer have to think about the notes. I've also been playing with a iphone Uillean pipe drone app over 4th position for celtic music in a similar way.

There's a lot of fantastic funk music that just pedals on one chord 'maggot brain' by funkadelic is great for the 5th posn minor pentatonic riffs.
barbequebob
598 posts
Mar 14, 2010
12:32 PM
It's a good idea because it forces you to get to know exactly where you are on the instrument 24/7, something too many players often tend to not really be aware of enough.
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