Ian
254 posts
Jan 30, 2016
2:16 PM
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Went through a couple of my less used harps the other day to sell on eBay.
Cleaned them, made them good to go and got a good price on them all, 3 in total sold to different buyers.
Then, what do I get? A return request from one of them saying that the 2 hole draw is broken on the sp20!
Yeah... Exactly.... The 2 hole draw.....
But eBay being eBay I have to honour the request and now swallow the cost of the return despite there being nothing wrong with the harp, just something wrong with the buyer.
Vent over.....
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ME.HarpDoc
108 posts
Jan 30, 2016
2:28 PM
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Take back the harp but send a response to the buyer with something like "Are you a relatively new player? Many new players feel like the 2 hole draw is broken when, in fact, yadda, yadda.....". EBay has a second chance option if buyer wants to pay you again plus shipping or, if you haven't agreed to his return request yet, maybe with the explanation he'll keep it. Also you may be able to recoup some of your shipping cost when you go to sell it again.
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Ian
255 posts
Jan 30, 2016
4:45 PM
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It's just annoying more than anything, a waste of my time.
I should have recorded an audio sample for the listing, to prove that it was good. maybe next time.
You live and learn.
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Tiggertoo1962
9 posts
Jan 30, 2016
5:22 PM
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Don't know how it is in the UK, but if you're selling something on ebay in Germany you just have to state clearly that what you are selling is used and comes without a guarantee. Then, unless I'm very much mistaken, there is no obligation to refund if the buyer isn't happy. The worst that can happen is that you get a negative "Bewertung" (hell, I'm Scottish and can't even remember what that's called in English ;-)), which can often to a large extent be negated if you have good rating and post a credible reply.
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Killa_Hertz
392 posts
Jan 30, 2016
8:24 PM
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Lol ... That really sux bro. Yea sound bite is a good idea. I wouldn't think you have to return it. Just because dude can't play. If it's not actually broken, which I'm sure it isn't. Does that mean i can just but anything i want play with it a couple days and say its broken. If so next time i see a B Rad Harp for $800 on ebay. I'll buy it play it for a week. And say is broken. Lol.
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"Trust Those Who Seek The Truth. Doubt Those Who Say They Have Found It."
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SuperBee
3319 posts
Jan 30, 2016
8:41 PM
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i dont even know if the last harps i bought are broken or what...too filthy for me to play and i havent been bothered to clean them yet...i just accept they are broken...i bought them from spain and i think the translation said they are badly adjusted but it may have said there is a broken reed. makes no difference to me...arggh...i'm spposed to be tuning harps. procrastinating...
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Killa_Hertz
393 posts
Jan 30, 2016
8:51 PM
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I ve only bought a few used harps. I boiled the hell out of em, but still don't play em much. It kinda wierds me out.
Do they bother yall.? How do you Clean em?
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"Trust Those Who Seek The Truth. Doubt Those Who Say They Have Found It."
Last Edited by Killa_Hertz on Jan 30, 2016 8:51 PM
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SuperBee
3320 posts
Jan 30, 2016
10:11 PM
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wood combs bother me. i expect these will all go in the bin. recently bought a few combs from Andrew Z, so i will use those. the brass is quite ok. i clean in ultrasonic, and with brush and a little dish soap. i fully believe the notion that if i am ok to go to a bar or restaurant and dont take my own cutlery etc, i can use a harp that has been washed up.
i bought a couple other harps from a guy in florida...theyre a bit gross too, but not as bad as the spanish ones...but you know...the degree to which they are soiled is pretty much irrelevant...a little bit is still unplayable.
i have some special 20s i bought secondhand just because of my slightly psycho personality and i wanted to make a point...the guy was selling because he had decided hohner sp20 and mb harps were just no damn' good, and after telling everyone this and buying a set of seydel harps he offered those NDG harps for sale...surprise! no takers. i eventually bought them for $20 each and planned to use them in a video about how to adjust a poor-playing harp...and make a country-tuned set from them. but then i just couldn't be bothered. i proved to me they just needed adjusting and then my interest evaporated. thats what pushes my buttons...when i see folks going on about stuff like 'this harp is no good' with some illogical reasoning like..."its the extra screw holes in the reed-plate that have made it lose its mojo"..tripe like that...
nah, i am used to cleaning them because i do repairs...i have to clean each harp at least twice. it does bother some folks though. i think thats actually why a lot wont get their harps repaired. but you know...when you buy a custom, you think that was not played by the builder
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Rontana
276 posts
Jan 31, 2016
3:00 AM
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Ebay is a pain in general. In its early days it was an excellent place to find bargains and to sell handmade items, but that was before all the "super sellers" and big retailers started using it (Etsy has gone down the same path for all practical purposes).
If something seems like a steal on Ebay these days, it's generally because it's junk
On the other hand, I've bought a couple of used harps - and a Cherub mic - off the "for sale" section of this forum with excellent results and very fair prices.
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Ian
256 posts
Jan 31, 2016
3:14 AM
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Generally, if I'm buying, it's only older 2nd hand... Vintage harps.
This guy sounds as if he's done this before as well. If you read between the lines. He originally sent me a message before the bidding ended asking if all the notes played well.
I said yes, because they did...
I'm guessing he had another 2 draw fail on him before due to technique.
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Ian
259 posts
Jan 31, 2016
4:16 PM
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Update. He's said it's OK now.... No longer wants a refund. Guess it wasn't broken after all ;)
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