MindTheGap
1223 posts
Mar 01, 2016
3:24 AM
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No, not that one. But I was listening to the venerable BBC Radio series Journey Into Space, from the 50's, and the chirpy cockney engineer bloke starts playing a harmonica to relax everyone during a 'tight spot'. The captain remarks that he regrets allowing each of the crew to bring one small personal object: mouth organs should have been banned. :(
WikiP says it was the last radio show to attract a bigger evening audience than television, imagine that.
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Killa_Hertz
666 posts
Mar 01, 2016
4:23 AM
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Hmmm. That's cool. I read the thread name and all i heard in my head was the classic announcer voice going "Haaaarmmonnniccaaaas iiiiiiiiiinn sssppaaaaaaaccceeeeeeee." Lol.
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SuperBee
3460 posts
Mar 01, 2016
4:25 AM
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I don't remember the film...WW1 was the setting but it was a talkie...the cheerful cockney corporal...no I don't know his rank with any certainty...was prone to play 'pack up your troubles' when they were sweating on something. Seemed to be his only tune. I was inspired to learn it and then started tongue blocking it to get the gliss working well. I think it was a key event in my learning to tongue block actually
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Killa_Hertz
667 posts
Mar 01, 2016
5:26 AM
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I was unfamiliar with the tune Bee. I just looked it up. Neat lil tune. Why did TB help you with the gliss?? Personally i would think it would make it harder. (Speaking of a gliss in general, not specifically the one in this song. )
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MindTheGap
1224 posts
Mar 01, 2016
5:51 AM
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kHz - Journey... Into.. Space... says the announcer in a robotic voice. Yes that's pretty much spot on.
I had to go and look up - it's the Muppets 'Pigs in Space!' sketch isn't it! Ah, all those things captured for ever on YT. Who needs a memory any more?
The original harmonica in space was, well of course, the hohner little lady on a Gemini mission. But we can all google for that so I don't know why I even bothered to write it.
Since Google = Minitrue (the Ministry of Truth in 1984, thank you Superbee I had to look it to be sure, so it's all circular) it could all be false memories anyway.
I'm drifting...
My only valid point was that, again, the harmonica is seen as an object of casual ridicule. Who would want to take up such a thing?
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Killa_Hertz
669 posts
Mar 01, 2016
9:58 AM
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Lol @ who would take up such a thing.
Yes .... piiigs iiin sppaaace. Hahaha. Gold.
I didnt know the Gemini thing. Facts are still fun regardless of Google. I'm always down for fun facts man.
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SuperBee
3461 posts
Mar 01, 2016
11:38 AM
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kHz it was just serendipitous. I was playing, trying to play fast, and I'd noticed that on the high end I could use my tongue to get stronger articulation of the notes when I played fast...like a staccato effect. I think I'd been playing Dixie and Yellow Rose of Texas, and poking my tongue out...anyway I noticed something with the gliss in puyt and I thought 'that was cool, what did I do?' And so started trying to do the thing deliberately. The thing was basically a slap to a gliss with a pull at the other end...I think it's the part between 'kit' and 'bag'...it's been a while.
Anyway...when you get an obsession like that...rather, when I get an obsession like that...that's when I developed technique. This would've been before I started learning off videos on internet..when it was all self-teaching and a few books.by the time I found David Barrett I had pretty much worked out how to play slaps and pulls but had no name for the techniques, and realised I could get a bend with tongue on but I'd been told no-one does that so hadn't pursued it...
Tongue blocking...the thing is...I think it makes it easier to play. That's why I do it.
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SuperBee
3464 posts
Mar 01, 2016
2:14 PM
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yeah, thats wrong, its actually a gliss to a slap. so the note befor the gliss is a slap then the gliss and a slap to the Kit! Bag! 9 blow.
this and yellow rose of texas and another song called 'shaving cream' (benny bell) is pretty much where i practiced tongue blocking. yellow rose of texas is really good to play with loads of big slaps...the good things are that you get to play the top part of the harp and use slaps to give it bigger sound. i was trying to get a sense of the military snare drum with tongue effects. at the time, i didnt have any knowledge that this was actually what 'tongue blocking' was all about..i thought tongue blocking was just a different way to get single notes and i knew about splits...but this idea of using the tongue to hammer on and off and play chords to single notes and splits and double stops and rhythms was all stuff i just was discovering...
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Killa_Hertz
672 posts
Mar 01, 2016
5:23 PM
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pretty much where im at with TB. I have BEEN using it for splits and effects like flutters and switch warbles. But now ive been incorporating slaps, syncopated backbeats, all while improving my single note TB and transitions between TB and pucker. I can transition pretty seamlessly now.
What i need is more licks. Like you have been saying Bee, you learned this from song A ... and that from song B. I have also been going back to songs lately. Such as Adams tradebit lessons. And Ronnies lick lessons. I also have one by Sandy Weltman that i originally only learned the first few licks in. I need to go learn the rest of it. There is some good stuff in there. But technique only goes so far. Then you need more licks so it doesn't get boring.
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SuperBee
3466 posts
Mar 01, 2016
6:31 PM
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I can't post this with the embed widget, but maybe you can use the link link
It's a crummy MP3 recording of a garage jam...the jams go on way too long and I run out of ideas. Don't bother with the first 7 minutes which is a slow and somewhat tedious rendition of messin with the kid...for harp licks check the second song which is have a good time. Some of the stuff is just lifted from Walter Horton but some I'm just making up. It goes on too long and I'm scratching to keep going but anyway
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SuperBee
3467 posts
Mar 01, 2016
6:46 PM
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And the sound of a 8" 5watt amp trying to be heard through a drum kit, a 100watt tube bass amp, a 50 watt 12" guitar amp and a 25watt 12" guitar amp...the little amp is just screaming away trying to be heard but is all kazoo tone stuff
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MindTheGap
1226 posts
Mar 02, 2016
1:22 AM
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That's that classic boogie vamp and it sounds very well. Isn't that rock around the clock at around 11m? :) Plenty of licks to copy from this.
Today's episode of Journey into Space - Lemmy plays his mouth organ on his bunk. Captain Jet Morgan, 'Stop that racket and listen will you...'.
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