But in principle I agree with you. Many communities have gone down or grown sour exactly because of stuff going on on this thread.
But let's get back on subject, I'll start a new thread so that we can discuss how we want to manage this forum. ---------- germanharpist on YT. =;-) - Resonance is KEY!
Some people decide they need to keep harping on a part of the discussion that is over and already WAY over discussed. It shows great insecurity and immaturity to bring up points already made at a part of the discussion that has nothing to do with what was discussed previously. Maybe the internet adds a certain rudeness/crudeness, but setting boundaries is completely normal. If a person thinks it's "hysterical or aggressive" to let someone know a discussion is over, then they need to reevaluate their own personal boundary issues.
"Some people decide they need to keep harping on a part of the discussion that is over and already WAY over discussed."
Michael you realise that the "Some people" you mention, includes you, right? For the most part I really don't have a problem with people arguing about something, as long as they're actually making rational arguments. But you and EV630 have just been acting like a couple of children. Several people have made comments (they say they won't mention names, but at this point I think it's pretty obvious) and yet you both keep at it. If he keeps writing childish things, fight the urge to respond with an equally childish message insulting him and his intelligence, and start acting like an adult and just ignore it.
I've gotten into debates/arguments myself, and I don't mind if things get "heated", but seriously this has gone past that point. Just ignore each other and move on.
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oops! this is LP vs TB. my bad. i thought it was 'i know you are but what am i?' for my 2 cents, i like both and incorporate both. since 1972. i'm just trying to get clean overblows nowadays aside from re-learning classic chess stuff i first worked on when i was 16. the harp is a wonderful instrument. i'm like that lord of the rings character whom always says,"my precious."
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New Guy Questions...How do you know when someone is LP as opposed to TB? Can you tell me what I should listen for to be able to tell the difference? I am a LP. I tried TB a couple times but I was basically just making out with the harmonica. ---------- -Edward Tomaine http://www.youtube.com/user/HungTaoChoyMei
@ EddieT : Academic. Do whatever works for YOU ! I am a basic puckerer, but now do TB, LB and some unclassified nonsense.
There are some good cats here. I hope you find them. LOT's of posers / sycophants for the type that gets harmonica a bad name, deservedly so. ( sorry cats...you know it's true ). They don't like me much here cause I speak my mind.
Find a good teacher that has experience, and avoid these drama queens.
/Find a good teacher that has experience, and avoid these drama queens./
Yes! Find a teacher.
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---------- I'll be playing with Andy Sharrocks @ The Leicester Square Theatre, London (UK) on Tuesday 18th May. Hokie Joint (feat Giles King on harp) in support.
Since I do both I feel at odds with myself. I feel so conflicted. Up till now they lived in peace with each others. I think I need a shrink now.LOL
When I used to teach classes I gave people a choice of how to get a single tone pucker or tongue blocking. Over 90% chose pucker and said it was easier.
Hey Little Joe, if you're going to refer to anyone as a sycophant or a poseur how about letting us know who you mean? I take it from some of the discussion in this thread that derogatory terms are applied to whoever disagrees with you, regardless of the merits of their arguments. That's the innernets, I guess.
Then if Dennis Gruenling comes in and makes comments that align with, say, my own - folks don't attack him as they might me, but instead try and kiss up to him.
It's excellent entertainment, but I just can't tell which side you are aligning yourself with.
Play nice people. It's all tongue in cheek. Well, except the tongue blocking stuff of course. You need a really big tongue to play tongue and cheek and tongue block at the same time.
Another misleading "VS" thread where the "VS" would be better if it weren't "VS" but rather "AND."
@nacoran:
/You need a really big tongue to play tongue and cheek and tongue block at the same time./
Not if you stick the harmonica into your mouth a la Rice Miller or Rick Estrin. Mind you, when I do that, my playing becomes a joke...
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---------- I'll be playing with Andy Sharrocks @ The Leicester Square Theatre, London (UK) on Tuesday 18th May. Hokie Joint (feat Giles King on harp) in support.
Dennis Gruenling Big Walter Horton Rod Piazza Gary Smith Mark Hummel Kim Wilson Steve Guyger William Clarke Sugar Ray Norcia Gary Primich Jerry Portnoy RJ Mischo David Barret James Harman Mitch Kashmar Andy Just Mark Ford Sugar Blue - Edit -I forgot to add him in
This "TB" list spells out most of my major influences. That said, I've committed a lot lately to LP. TB Over Blows? Bends, absolutely but overblows? I know I've stumbled on a few but it looks like I've got some work to do...
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?bluzlvr- why did you have to drag this one up again? It's a great subject, but this thread is also a classroom example of how a good conversation can go wrong... let it be man... let it be.... ---------- DutchBones Tube
dutch, isnt it obvious? he found a jpeg that could only fit one place here...and it's kinda catchy...
personally, i see nothing wrong with a topic going off topic. its a forum for blues harmonica, sure, but for ideas to change and evolve as we carry on a conversation, well... is how we are geared isnt it? the thread some got in a stink over lately, started as an observation about my level of harmonica knowledge and how I thought it would help if i knew more about it. it evolved into a non-hostile back and forth about how we each viewed talent, then it got philosophical, then it went on to dog training, and then back to learning music, and lastly, we briefly touched on god. IF it had continued, it's likely that our forbidden conversation would have simply turned the corner, into another subject that relates to an opinion someone had earlier in the thread.
words we type here are all we have in this e-gymnasium of creative minds. those words may not always directly reflect the intentions of this site and it's forum, and how could it? but we share a common interest that brings us all here...views i had in the past, have been debunked, overthrown, ousted... all because what i read simply made me think of it in a different way.
i dont want to lose that aspect of it when i stop by here at night...
those who would take anything personally, from one man, out of hundreds of millions on this planet AND ON A FORUM inside your computer...is beyond me. It's like getting mad at the "youre the father!" deadbeat dad on Maury Povich or yelling out "you go girl!" at judge judy and getting seriously worked up about the loser plaintiff...
ill follow the rule, but i dont have to like it...
"There are some good cats here. I hope you find them. LOT's of posers / sycophants for the type that gets harmonica a bad name, deservedly so. ( sorry cats...you know it's true ). They don't like me much here cause I speak my mind."
Here's a video of Will Wilde playing a Big Walter style boogie with classic tongue-blocking technique.
Ah, actually, no. It just sounds like tongue blocking. He's actually doing it--or a fair bit of it--WITHOUT tongue blocking. Or at least that's his claim at 2:45 or so:
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I wonder if any one uses a style of half blocking a single note. I have been using it for 40 yrs,only on notes above 4hole.I cover the bottom half of a hole with my tongue and it gives me great control for fast runs on the upper half of the harp...
I like Will Wilde's lesson. Thanks for posting kudzurunner. I guess that settles the debate once and for all. You can close the thread now. BronzeWailer's YouTube
