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Gnarly
3022 posts
Mar 08, 2022
11:07 AM
Hi—
Here is a video demonstrating a new tuning I have developed.
I am hoping someone will want to try it, any takers?

G Hybrid

Last Edited by Gnarly on Mar 09, 2022 1:28 PM
florida-trader
1559 posts
Mar 09, 2022
7:49 AM
Gary - there is an issue with your video. The audio and video are not synched so it makes it kinda difficult, if not painful, to watch.
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Gnarly
3023 posts
Mar 09, 2022
10:23 AM
Hi Tom—
I just checked the original video, and then listen to the YouTube.
No discrepancy on this end.
Sorry you’re having issues.
Bluebird
35 posts
Mar 09, 2022
10:50 AM
The video worked for me, although I'm at work, so had to play it quietly - and probably missed some stuff.

It looks interesting, but I'm not sure I really understand what's happening. Do I understand correctly that this tuning is to address the problem that a standard G harmonica is so low that it doesn't cut through, and a high G harmonica is just too high for a lot stuff?

If so, do I understand that it would be similar to playing a high G, but altering it so that (among other things) what would be hole 2 draw on a high G is now hole 4 draw in the G Hybrid? Essentially giving a high G but with more notes added on the bottom end - so you get better (lower) chords and chugging, and eliminate some of the ear piercing highs - right?
Gnarly
3024 posts
Mar 09, 2022
11:12 AM
Right.
The draw chord is D, all 10 holes—although you still have the whole step interval between the E and the F# (hole 6 and 7 on a standard, 9 and 10 on this one.
All the A notes bend down to the b5, like on hole 4, and the b3rd is available in all three octaves. And there are three C notes (the b7), one is the given on hole 7 (5 on a standard).
Beats the crap out of the Penta . . .
ROBERT TEMPLE II
106 posts
Mar 09, 2022
1:19 PM
Gary - Could you please write out the notes' layout/chart? I have noted it very hard to set up my G harps' four hole for overbends, to get the Bb there. I happen to love the PentaHarp, so if you think this is an improvement on the PentaHarp, cool. I look forward to being able to see the layout for your unique tuning one day soon. Thanks for sharing!
Gnarly
3025 posts
Mar 09, 2022
9:49 PM
Hey Robert--
Here's the tuning:
B E G B D G B D E G
D F# A D F# A C E F# A

I can't make the PentHarp work for me, glad you like it.
No Bb givens in this tuning, but lot of sweet bends in all the right places.

Draw bends on all holes except 7.
Half step bends on 2, 3, 6, 8, 9 and 10.
Two draw bends on 1 and 4.
Three draw bends on 5.
Holes 3-8 are like 1-6 on a high G.
Gnarly
3026 posts
Mar 09, 2022
9:51 PM
There is also this:

Last Edited by Gnarly on Mar 09, 2022 9:51 PM
barbequebob
3675 posts
Mar 10, 2022
10:27 AM
Actually, this looks more like one of the tunings that Pierre Beauregard and Magic Dick had put together for their Magic Harp line that never really got off the ground and Pierre introduced me to this kind of tuning back in the mid-1980's if I'm not mistaken.
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Gnarly
3027 posts
Mar 11, 2022
7:02 AM
I have found out that this tuning is one of the Magic tunings.Figure 13 in the patent document.
Thanks to Barbeque Bob and Winslow Yerxa!
dougharps
2292 posts
Mar 11, 2022
7:17 AM
Great minds, etc... Thanks for posting all of the above. We have a great resource of harp knowledge here.

The tuning sounds interesting, but I had already decided to mainly stick to "Richter" harps and chromatics. I already often take a low and high pitched diatonic harps and switch between them to get the pitch range I want.

I have 5 keys of minor harps, 2 keys of Melody Makers, 5 keys of Paddy Richter, and 5 keys of country tuned harps and I hardly ever get one out unless I encounter a specific song that is best performed on an alternate tuning.

99% of the time I prefer using positions/modes and harp switching to using an alternate tuning that strains my brain.
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Doug S.

Last Edited by dougharps on Mar 11, 2022 7:18 AM
Gnarly
3028 posts
Mar 11, 2022
8:12 AM
With regard to confusion— if you have ever played a high G, holes 1 thru 6 can be found on holes 3 thru 8 of this tuning.


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